I'M SO SORRY. YOU HEARD THE GAVEL, THOUGH, RIGHT? 
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WORKSHOP AT 5:15 P.M. WE HAVE 6 TRUSTEES PRESENT AND 0 VIA ZOOM. 
          I'M SORRY. AND BOARD INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY AND FACILITY PLANNING WORKSHOP. 
          THANK YOU. WE STILL HAVE 6 PRESENT. OKAY, DOCTOR WES. 
          [1. Discussion regarding Instructional Technology ]
GOOD EVENING. I'M KIND OF ENJOYING THE GAVEL,
JUST TO BE HONEST. 
          SO I'M HERE THIS EVENING WITH CHERYL MCDONALD,
OUR CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER, AND MISS ASHLEY NELSON, OUR MANAGING DIRECTOR OF DIGITAL LEARNING. WE'VE GOT SOME INFORMATION TO GO OVER WITH YOU, BUT BEFORE I GET STARTED. I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT THIS HAS BEEN A DISTRICT
WIDE COLLABORATION. 
          WE'RE GOING TO VISIT WITH YOU TONIGHT A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND WE'VE HAD FOLKS FROM TEACHING AND LEARNING STUDENT SERVICES,
THE LEADERSHIP TEAM, AS WELL AS TECHNOLOGY FOLKS IN HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS, GOING THROUGH THIS. AND SO THIS IS REALLY WHILE WE'RE SPEAKING TONIGHT,
AND IT WILL MAINLY BE CHERYL AND ASHLEY, AND I'M GOING TO PITCH IN WHEN I CAN. BUT THIS IS REALLY THE CULMINATION OF A LOT OF FOLKS
THAT I WORK WITH ON A DAILY BASIS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW. SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO TONIGHT WAS MAKE SURE THAT
YOU AS A BOARD AND OUR PUBLIC ARE AWARE OF OUR SHARED UNDERSTANDING ABOUT HOW FRISCO ISD USES TECHNOLOGY INTENTIONALLY. 
          WE KNOW THAT THAT'S, THERE'S A SAFETY ASPECT TO THAT. 
          THERE'S A BALANCE WITH HANDS ON GOOD QUALITY INSTRUCTION,
AND NOTHING IN THE WORLD CAN EVER TAKE THE PLACE OF OUR PHENOMENAL, AMAZING TEACHERS. SHOUT OUT TO THEM FOR THIS IS THE FIRST DAY BACK FOR THE WHOLE,
WHOLE STAFF. 
          AND IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE THEM THIS MORNING AND JUST THEIR THEIR WHAT MAKES US GREAT AND
FRISCO ISD. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          THE FOUNDATION OF INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY, WHERE THIS FITS IN WITH OUR DISTRICT GOALS AND
OUR DEPARTMENT GOALS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SOME SCREEN TIME COMMENTS AND OUR FOCUS ON
INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY USE. 
          THAT'S INTENTIONAL IN FRISCO ISD. AND WE'RE GOING TO BUILD OR BUILD SOME COMMON LANGUAGE
AROUND INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY. 
          THERE'S A LOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER TONIGHT. 
          MOST OF IT IS NOT BRAND NEW. WE'VE HAD GUIDELINES FOR OUR STAFF AND OUR STUDENTS FOR YEARS
RESPONSIBLE USE GUIDELINES, ACCEPTABLE USE GUIDELINES, DIGITAL LEARNING GUIDELINES,
WHICH THERE CURRENTLY ARE. WE REALLY KIND OF WRAP THIS UP, OF COURSE, IN 2020. AND WE'VE MADE SOME MINOR TWEAKS AND EDITS ALONG THE WAY,
BUT THE BULK OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT NEW. 
          AND IT REALLY IS HIGHLIGHTING BEST PRACTICES FOR ENGAGING INSTRUCTION IN OUR CLASSROOMS
ACROSS FRISCO ISD. 
          SOME OF THE INFORMATION TONIGHT IS RELATIVELY NEW AS IT RELATES TO RESEARCH THAT'S BEEN
OUT THERE. 
          WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO RESPOND TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS,
INCLUDING OUR BOARD MEMBERS, OUR COMMUNITY, OUR STAFF WE WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE READY FOR THEIR FUTURE. 
          THAT DOES INCLUDE TECHNOLOGY, AND WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A REAL BALANCE WITH
THAT. 
          AND SO I'LL MAKE SURE I HIGHLIGHTED THOSE THINGS WITH YOU BEFORE WE GOT REALLY ROLLED INTO
IT. 
          THIS REALLY COMES OUT OF A DISTRICT GOAL THAT YOU ALL CHARGED US WITH JUST A FEW MONTHS
AGO. 
          GOAL NUMBER 2 AND THE TECHNOLOGY MEDIA DEPARTMENT THEIR GOAL IS HIGHLIGHTED IN,
IN THIS BALANCE OF INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY USE AND INTENTIONAL USE IN THE CLASSROOM. MAKING CERTAIN THAT IT'S, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC FOR STUDENT USES AND HIGHLIGHTING
WHAT ENGAGED INSTRUCTION LOOK LIKE IN A VARIETY OF ENVIRONMENTS. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALSO KNOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK CONTINUALLY OVER THE LAST YEAR OR
SO, ESPECIALLY IN THE SURVEY. AND YOU ALL HEARD ABOUT THIS BACK IN THE IN THE SUMMER WHEN WE
TALKED ABOUT IT, WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM THAT, BUT WE ALSO GOT IT ALL THROUGHOUT OUR COMPREHENSIVE NEEDS
ASSESSMENT PROCESS THROUGH THE YEAR. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THESE THINGS AGAIN,
MADE SOME MINOR TWEAKS. 
          WE'LL SHARE THOSE WITH YOU THIS EVENING. AND AS WE HAD OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP
WITH THE BOARD IN THE SPRING, THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY AND SCREEN TIME HAS COME UP. 
          SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT TONIGHT, NOT BECAUSE WE'VE MADE DRASTIC CHANGES TO OUR SUPPORT
AND OUR WORK FOR OUR STAFF AND OUR STUDENTS. 
          BUT BECAUSE IT'S COME UP A LITTLE BIT. WE MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL,
AS A BOARD ARE EQUIPPED TO WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS. WE'LL PROBABLY GET THROUGH YOUR QUESTIONS MAY BE,
AND AT THE END, WE'LL BE GLAD TO GO THROUGH SOME THINGS WITH YOU. 
          BUT I WANT TO AGAIN END I'M GOING TO BRING MY FRIENDS ON BOARD. 
          BUT THIS HAS BEEN A TRUE DISTRICT WIDE EFFORT AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU
TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? EVERYBODY MAKE IT BACK FROM VACATION JUST FINE,
RIGHT? SO A LOT OF TIMES WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR COMMUNITY IS TALKING ABOUT RESEARCH. 
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AND QUITE A BIT OF THE RESEARCH IS, IS FOCUSED ON THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF
EDUCATION. 
          SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU SEE AT HOME. AND SO WE KIND OF WANT TO KIND OF BREAK THAT UP
BETWEEN THE 2. 
          AND IT TALKS A LOT ABOUT THE NEGATIVE PROLONGED USE OF TECHNOLOGY,
BUT A LOT OF IT'S ON OUR CONSUMER TOOLS, SOCIAL MEDIA, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE DO HAVE RESEARCH AND GUIDANCE FOR APPROPRIATE USE WITH
[INAUDIBLE] AND SOME OF OUR OTHER COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT WE TALK WITH AND THEY TALK ABOUT THAT. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT THE QUALITY AND WHAT THE
INTENTIONAL USE OF THE TECHNOLOGY IS MORE THAN X NUMBER OF MINUTES AND NO MORE ON THERE. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'LL LEAD TO TALK ABOUT YOU ALL
HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY. 
          YOU SAW THE SURVEY THAT WENT OUT AND WAS REFERRED TO THAT TALKING ABOUT OUR PARENTS. 
          WE HAD SOME THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT JUST SCREEN TIME,
WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, OUR STUDENTS BEING ON VIDEOS MORE THAN WHAT THEY REALLY WANTED. 
          AND SO THIS ALL KIND OF CAME TOGETHER WITH US COMING UP WITH THIS,
RIGHT? RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'VE HEARD SOMETHING FROM OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. ANYBODY ON THE DAIS? YEAH, A FEW OF YOU. SO WE'RE HERE TO JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT,
GET ON THE SAME PAGE AND SHOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IN FRISCO. 
          1 THING THAT I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS WE TALK A LOT ABOUT STANDARDS AND THERE ARE
ACTUALLY TECHNOLOGY APPS APPLICATION TEKS THAT WE HAVE THAT THE STATE PROVIDES, JUST LIKE THERE ARE TEAKS FOR MATH OR SCIENCE OR SOCIAL
STUDIES. 
          AND SO WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU ARE THE STRANDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY K THROUGH 8 TEKS THAT ARE
EXPECTED TO BE TAUGHT. 
          THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY TESTED LIKE YOU WOULD ON THE STAR TEST FOR MATH OR SCIENCE,
BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE EXPECT FOR OUR STUDENTS TO KNOW BEFORE THEY LEAVE EIGHTH GRADE. ONE EXAMPLE THERE DATA LITERACY MANAGEMENT AND REPRESENTATION. 
          THAT CAN ALSO BE THEY TALK ABOUT DOING THIS IN CONJUNCTION IN A MATH CLASS OR SCIENCE
CLASS, GATHERING DATA, MAYBE TAKING THE TEMPERATURE THROUGHOUT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TIMES AND
MAKING THAT INTO A CHART AND A GRAPH. 
          CAN THOSE THINGS BE DONE OFFLINE? OF COURSE,
BUT WE ALSO WANT TO SHOW THEM HOW TO BE ABLE TO USE EXCEL OR SHEETS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THERE ARE SKILLS THAT THEY WANT OUR STUDENTS TO HAVE ONCE THEY GET INTO HIGH
SCHOOL AND START GETTING INTO THOSE DEEPER LEVEL CLASSES WITH TECHNOLOGY. 
          WE CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT SCREEN TIME UNTIL WE TALK ABOUT THESE 2 TOPICS. 
          AND THAT IS PASSIVE USE OF TECHNOLOGY AND ACTIVE USE. 
          AND WHAT WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO REMOVE FROM OUR CLASSROOMS IS OUR WILL BE THE PASSIVE USE
OF TECHNOLOGY. 
          THEY'RE NOT JUST WATCHING A VIDEO. AND THEY'RE,
THEY'RE CONSUMING, THEY'RE NOT REALLY DOING A LOT OF THINKING AND ARE INTERACTING. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE CAN CONSIDER PASSIVE USE. 
          I TELL THIS ALL THE TIME WHEN WE'VE BEEN MAKING OUR ROUNDS I DO A LOT,
QUITE A BIT OF A SHAME. 
          I SHOULD BE ASHAMED. A LOT OF PASSIVE USE OF TIKTOK OR INSTAGRAM IN THE EVENINGS. 
          AND THAT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S HOW I'M KIND OF TRYING TO TURN MY MIND OFF WHEN I'VE HAD A
BUSY DAY OR WHATEVER. 
          IT'S REALLY NOT REAL CONSTRUCTIVE. I'M JUST CONSUMING VIDEOS,
YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND SOMETIMES IGNORING SOME OF MY FAMILY. BUT BUT I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT'S
A DRASTIC EXTREME CASE. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA. WE'RE NOT OUR KIDS ARE NOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN,
IN OUR, OUR FILTER TAKES CARE OF THAT. 
          BUT JUST THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS I KNOW YOU'RE,
YOU'VE HEARD FROM PARENTS ABOUT VIDEO WATCHING VIDEOS. 
          AND SO WE JUST IF THEY ARE GOING TO WATCH A VIDEO,
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH IT? WHAT'S THE INTENT BEHIND IT? IS IT AND NOT JUST CONSUMING? THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE INFORMATION ONCE THEY RECEIVE IT. ACTIVE USE
THEY'RE CREATING. 
          OUR STUDENTS ARE DESIGNING THEIR PROBLEM SOLVING,
THEY'RE ANALYZING, THEY'RE COLLABORATING. AND IF YOU RECOGNIZE ALL THOSE WORDS, THAT'S IN OUR FUTURE READY LEARNER PROFILE. AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THEY ARE CREATING,
MAKING PRODUCTS THAT WE CAN SEE. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT OUR STUDENTS TO DO. 
          AND THAT IS VERY INTENTIONAL USE. IT TAKES PLANNING IN,
IN OUR TEACHERS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT OUR, YOU KNOW, WHAT GOAL IS IT TRYING TO MEET WHEN WE DO THIS ACTIVITY,
IT'S NOT DOING IT JUST BECAUSE OF TECHNOLOGY. 
          OH, WE WANT WE'VE GOT COMPUTERS. LET'S DO SOMETHING WITH IT. 
          THAT'S NOT THE PURPOSE BEHIND IT. WE WANT IT TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL. 
          AND THE REASONS WHY IT'S DOING TO MEET THAT INSTRUCTIONAL GOAL. 
          AND THEN WE CAN SEE THAT ONE IS LEARNING FROM TECHNOLOGY,
WHILE THE OTHER ONE IS LEARNING WITH TECHNOLOGY, USING THE TECHNOLOGY TO LEARN. YOU PICKED UP THE MIC. 
          DO YOU WANT TO JUMP IN? I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT WHAT CHERYL'S TALKING ABOUT IS WE KNOW
THAT THERE'S TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE THAT OUR STUDENTS, SOME OF OUR INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS ARE ACCESSED THROUGH TECHNOLOGY. THE KEY UP THERE IS
THAT ACTIVE USE LEARNING WITH IT. 
          IN SOME CASES BOARDS ASKED ABOUT HOW ARE WE UTILIZING AI? SAME THING LEARNING WITH THAT SO THAT STUDENTS KNOW HOW TO USE THESE THINGS
CONSTRUCTIVELY, SAFELY, ETHICALLY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TEACHING THOSE
PIECES AND THAT'S ALL ACTIVE USE. 
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SO I WOULD JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THAT PIECE THAT SHELL DID REALLY WELL. 
          AND YOU'LL HEAR US SAY CREATION OVER CONSUMPTION. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE OUR KEY WORDS THERE. 
          AND ONCE AGAIN, WE DO NOT WANT TO USE TECHNOLOGY TO REPLACE A TEACHER OR GOOD INSTRUCTION, RIGHT? A VIDEO IS NOT GOING TO REPLACE WHAT THE TEACHER CAN DO IN THE CLASSROOM. 
          AND SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S REAL CLEAR THAT THAT IS WE DO NOT WANT TO
REPLACE ANY KIND OF INSTRUCTION, JIMMY, TO DO THE MOUSE FOR YOU OR YOU GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. SORRY, SORRY. HI, EVERYONE, I'M ASHLEY NELSON. 
          I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO MEET SOME OF THE NEW MEMBERS. I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF LEARNING
AND LEADING WITH CHERYL AND WES AND EVERYONE ELSE, SO I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MAKING THE CASE FOR
INTENTIONAL USE, IDENTIFYING PASSIVE OVER ACTIVE. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK LIKE WHAT'S AGE APPROPRIATE. 
          SO IF YOU TAKE A FEW SECONDS TO LOOK THROUGH THESE 3 DESCRIPTORS,
GIVEN OUR DIFFERENT BANDS, GRADE BANDS, WE'VE, WE'VE STRIVED, STRIVEN HERE TO OR STRIVE HERE TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEAS
OF WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE. 
          THAT'S ALSO AGE APPROPRIATE, ACTIVE, AND AGE APPROPRIATE. 
          AND WHAT WE HOPE JUMPS OUT AT YOU IS EVERYONE STARTS WITH TEACHERS DETERMINING WHAT'S
APPROPRIATE FOR THE STUDENTS. 
          SO IT ALL STARTS WITH PEOPLE. PEOPLE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT. 
          WE'VE SAID IT TECHNOLOGY WILL NEVER REPLACE GOOD INSTRUCTION OR A TEACHER. 
          IT'S THERE TO MAGNIFY THAT. IT'S ROOTED IN LEARNING GOALS AND STUDENT OUTCOMES. 
          SO WE HAVE A WONDERFUL FOUNDATION AND A WONDERFUL PRACTICE AND CULTURE HERE IN FRISCO OF
COLLABORATIVE PLANNING. 
          OUR TEACHERS REALLY UNDERSTAND THE POWER OF THE STANDARDS AND HOW TO BREAK THOSE DOWN AND
UNPACK THEM, AND THEN PLAN INSTRUCTION AROUND THOSE, LEAD THE KIDS TO THE MASTERY OF THOSE STANDARDS. 
          SO WHEN WE HAVE A VERY CLEAR DIRECTION OF WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHAT MASTERY LOOKS LIKE,
IT'S EASIER TO DETERMINE HOW TECHNOLOGY MAY HELP YOU ALONG THE WAY. 
          THE NEAT THING ABOUT TECHNOLOGY IS IT CAN BREAK DOWN BARRIERS FOR STUDENTS THAT YOU MAY
NOT SEE AS A TEACHER, AS A REALLY DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THEY WANT TO LAND IN A LESSON,
AND THEY GET TO KNOW THEIR STUDENTS AND THEY GET TO KNOW THE DIGITAL TOOLS AVAILABLE TO THEM, THEY CAN MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS OF TOOLS THAT MIGHT HELP LITTLE STEPHANIE ENJOY
READING MORE, RIGHT? OR MISTY NOT FEEL SO SCARED TO TRY SOMETHING NEW. 
          SO IT CAN REALLY HELP A TEACHER BE WHAT THEY NEED TO BE FOR EACH OF THOSE KIDS IN THEIR
CLASSROOM. 
          WE'RE SUPER FORTUNATE HERE IN FRISCO. WE HAVE ROBUST RESOURCES THAT ARE THE BEST OF THE
BEST. 
          WE WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE. 
          AND THEN WE CAN TRAIN AND SUPPORT OUR TEACHERS IN THAT USE. 
          WE'RE ALSO THE FIRST TO SAY, AS A TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT,
CAN WE DO THIS WITHOUT TECHNOLOGY? AND IS IT BETTER THAT WAY? SO YOU MIGHT SEE THAT SOME STUDENTS ARE USING TECHNOLOGY AND
OTHERS AREN'T. 
          SO IT'S THAT PERSONALIZATION AS WELL. IT'S CAN REALLY BREAK DOWN BARRIERS FOR INDIVIDUAL
STUDENTS OR EVEN WHOLE GROUPS. 
          IT ALSO JUST MAGNIFIES WHAT A TEACHER CAN DO FOR ALL THOSE LITTLE FACES OUT THERE LOOKING
AT THEM. 
          ARE WE TAKING QUESTIONS? ARE WE? I NEED TO WAIT TILL THE END. 
          WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU. OKAY, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. 
          SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN OR TOUCH ON AS FAR AS THE WHAT'S REQUESTED OR REQUIRED? IS EVERYONE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO DO AT A MINIMUM CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THINGS WITH
TECHNOLOGY, OR YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THE TEACHER'S DISCRETION TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO.
TEACHER'S DISCRETION, BASED ON WHAT THEY DETERMINE IS THEIR DESIRED OUTCOME,
AND IF TECHNOLOGY CAN HELP THEM. 
          SO NO REQUIREMENT TO USE CERTAIN TOOLS. I WOULD SAY WE'VE GOT SOME GUIDELINES CLEARLY THAT
WE WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN IT'S HAPPENING IN CLASSROOMS. ACTIVE USE, NOT PASSIVE. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME SOME RESEARCH WITH SCREEN TIME
AND WHAT THAT LOOKS AND SOUNDS LIKE, BUT SO IT IS TEACHER AUTONOMY, TEACHER PROFESSIONAL CHOICE BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THEIR
STUDENTS. 
          BUT THERE ARE SOME LIMITS TO THAT. SO JUST ANOTHER QUICK POINT ABOUT THAT. 
          HOW DO WE AVOID ONE PARENT FEELING AS THOUGH MY KID IS IN SCHOOL A AND THEIR TEACHER IS
ALL IN, AND MY FRIEND KID IS IN SCHOOL B, AND THEY'RE NOT SO MUCH OR VICE VERSA,
OR I DON'T WANT MY KID TO BE ALL IN SO IT COULD GO ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          SO I HAVE 1 SLIDE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THAT I THINK WILL ADDRESS THAT. 
          KEITH, IF YOU'LL GIVE ME A CHANCE TO TRY TO DO THAT,
AND THEN IF NOT, THEN WE CAN TALK FURTHER. 
          OKAY. I JUST HAVE ONE. GO AHEAD. ONE FOLLOW UP. 
          AS FAR AS WHAT TRUSTEE MADDOX SHARED, CAN YOU JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW I KNOW WE
DO GIVE THE TEACHERS AUTONOMY, BUT CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE HOW IT IS? IT CAN BE FOUND BY THE ADMINISTRATION WITHIN THEIR
LESSON PLANS SO THAT THEY'RE, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT. WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE NOT UTILIZING THEIR DISCRETION
UNPLANNED. 
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RIGHT? RIGHT. SO WE'LL GET I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A GLANCE OF THE DIGITAL LEARNING
GUIDELINES, AND THAT'LL HELP AS WELL. SO LET ME GET THERE AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL GET YOUR QUESTION
ANSWERED. 
          SO WE LOVE THIS GRAPHIC. IT TALKS ABOUT THIS SCREEN TIME BALANCE. 
          SO WHAT'S APPROPRIATE. ACTIVE TECHNOLOGY USE BALANCED WITH NON TECHNOLOGY USE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE THERE AGAIN,
THE THINGS WE'VE KIND OF LAID OUT PRIOR. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE BALANCED, OF COURSE IT NEEDS TO BE SAFE,
AGE APPROPRIATE. 
          WHAT IS OUR LEARNING GOAL? HOW CAN TECHNOLOGY HELP US THERE? THAT'S THAT INTENTION. AND TO ENHANCE THE POWER OF THE TEACHER AND THE DISCOVERY AND THE
LEARNING OF THE STUDENT ALL ALIGNED TO THIS LEARNING TARGETS. 
          AND THEN I THINK IN THAT RED TRIANGLE, THIS IS ONE THAT'S THAT'S REALLY GOING TO CATCH
ATTENTION. 
          IT'S NOT A TIME FILLER. SO LIKE YOUR EARLY FINISHERS,
WE DON'T WANT PASSIVE TECHNOLOGY USE FOR THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          IT'S NOT USED FOR FREE TIME OR NEVER USED AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR INSTRUCTION OR FOR THE
TEACHER. 
          THE WAY TO BALANCE THAT. SO SOMETIMES WE HAVE ACTIVE SCREEN TIME,
MAYBE SOME REQUIRED SCREEN TIME, IF THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE GOING TO GET GAIN THE LEARNING,
THEN WE WANT TO BALANCE IT WITH WHAT YOU SEE OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT. 
          SO HOW ARE WE INTENTIONALLY PLANNING FOR THE KIDS TO STOP AND GIVE OR RECEIVE FEEDBACK? THESE THINGS WE KNOW ARE GOOD INSTRUCTIONAL STRATEGIES. 
          HOW ARE WE DOING HANDS ON WORK. WE NEED TO TOUCH AND FEEL AND CREATE AND BUILD. 
          HOW ARE WE COLLABORATIVELY LEARNING? AGAIN, GOING BACK TO OUR PROFILE,
HOW ARE THEY TALKING WITH THEIR PEERS TO SHARE THEIR IDEAS, PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF THEIR THINKING, MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT DISCOURSE WITH EACH
OTHER. 
          HOW ARE THEY ANALYZING DATA? THEY LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE AI IS TRYING TO GET THEM ALL THE
TIME. 
          SO HOW ARE WE TEACHING AND GROWING THEM IN THAT WAY? TO BE WONDERFUL, EDUCATED CONSUMERS OF WHAT'S IN FRONT OF THEM? HOW ARE THEY MOVING AROUND THE CLASSROOM? WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS
IN EDUCATION TO GET KIDS AND TEACHERS UP AND MOVING. 
          AND SO HOW ARE WE LEVERAGING THAT IN OUR CLASSROOMS? AND THEN AGAIN, JUST THAT, JUST THAT PEER DISCOURSE,
THAT PEER DISCUSSION THAT ALSO ALLOWS A TEACHER TO CHECK FOR MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND GRAB THAT HANDFUL OF KIDS THAT THEY NEED TO GO AND DO A LITTLE RETEACH WITH OR BRING THE WHOLE
CLASS BECAUSE THEY SAID ONE THING, BUT THE STUDENTS HEARD ANOTHER. SO TO CLEAR UP THAT CONFUSION. 
          SO IT ALLOWS FOR THAT IN THE MOMENT ADJUSTMENT FOR INSTRUCTION. 
          IF A KID IS SITTING THERE CLICKING THROUGH, THE TEACHER WILL NEVER KNOW IF THEY GET IT OR
NOT. 
          SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT THOSE CHUNKS AND HOW WE'RE MOVING AND CHANGING
BETWEEN THOSE ONLINE AND OFFLINE. 
          SO AGAIN, THERE IN THAT CENTER, IT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE USE AND THE QUALITY OF THE USE
MORE SO THAN THE TIME BAND. 
          IF YOU FOCUS ON THE PURPOSE AND QUALITY, THEN THAT TIME BAND,
ALONG WITH SOME OF THE GUIDELINES THAT WE'LL LOOK AT IN A LITTLE BIT NATURALLY CREATE THOSE NICE CHUNKS. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF AN ACTIVITY,
BUT DON'T WORRY, NOBODY HAS TO STAND UP OR MOVE, OKAY? WE JUST ASK OUR TEACHERS AND STUDENTS TO DO THAT. 
          SO JUST WITH A THUMBS UP OR A THUMBS DOWN, IF YOU'LL READ THAT FIRST SCENARIO ABOUT OUR
THIRD GRADE SCIENCE LESSON, AND IF YOU THINK IT'S ACTIVE, THUMBS UP. IF YOU THINK IT'S PASSIVE THUMBS DOWN. 
          AND IN RELATION TO THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY IN THIS ACTIVITY. 
          ACTIVE THUMBS UP OR PASSIVE THUMBS DOWN. WE'RE NOT SURE. 
          IF IT'S ACTIVE. A GREAT EXAMPLE WE WANT A THUMBS UP IF IT'S PASSIVE. 
          THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. WE WANT A THUMBS DOWN. 
          IF WE'RE NOT SURE, WE CAN GO TO THE SIDE. OKAY. 
          YOU READY? DUN DUN DUN. WE WOULD CONSIDER THIS PASSIVE,
WHICH MEANS IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WRONG, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT AND IT'S PASSIVE. 
          OKAY. SOME OF THE THINGS HERE IS THAT THEY'RE COPYING PASTING INTO A GOOGLE DOC. 
          THEY'RE NOT TALKING WITH EACH OTHER. WHY ARE THEY COPYING PASTING WITH THE GOOGLE DOC? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH THE GOOGLE DOC? THEY AREN'T SYNTHESIZING OR ANALYZING. THEY'RE JUST COPYING AND PASTING THE DATA. 
          SO IF THEY'RE PULLING IT FROM A NOT GREAT SITE,
IT COULD BE INACCURATE DATA. 
          SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THERE THAT WE COULD UNPACK AND MAKE IT MORE ACTIVE. 
          WE WANT TO THINK, WHAT ARE THEY PRODUCING THAT SHOWS THEY ARE THINKING? AND SO COPYING AND PASTING INTO A GOOGLE DOC ISN'T REALLY SHOWING US THEIR THINKING. 
          IT'S SHOWING US THEY WENT TO THE SITE AND THEY KNOW HOW TO CONTROL C AND CONTROL V. 
          THAT'S NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM AN ADVANTAGE IN THE WORLD THAT THEY'RE WORKING IN,
RIGHT? SO ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT THERE. LET'S LOOK AT A SEVENTH GRADE SCIENCE EXAMPLE. 
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BUT Y'ALL ARE MUCH MORE CONFIDENT THIS TIME. YOU NAILED IT. 
          IT IS VERY PASSIVE. FIRST OF ALL YOU SHOULD BE TIRED AFTER READING THAT. 
          OH, IT'S VERY ACTIVE. SORRY. YOU SHOULD BE TIRED AFTER READING THAT. 
          SO THINK ABOUT A STUDENT ENGAGING IN ALL THAT LEARNING. 
          WE TOOK ALL THE TIME ABOUT. STUDENTS SHOULD BE TIRED AT THE END OF THE DAY BECAUSE ALL OF
THE ACTIVE, ENGAGING, LEARNING. AND SO IF YOU WERE TO PARTICIPATE IN ALL OF THOSE THINGS,
YOU WOULD BE TIRED, RIGHT? AND IF YOU THINK BACK TO THAT BALANCE BEAM THAT WE LOOKED AT,
YOU CAN PULL THAT APART AND FIND DIFFERENT WAYS WHERE THEY'RE GIVING AND RECEIVING FEEDBACK. WHEN THEY'RE HAVING DISCOURSE WITH EACH OTHER,
WHERE THEY'RE ANALYZING DATA, THERE'S PROBABLY A, THERE'S A BALANCE OF ONLINE AND OFFLINE. OKAY. 
          OKAY. FINAL 1, 11TH GRADE HISTORY. 
          THERE'S NO STOPPING. MISS ELAD. I DON'T EVEN HAVE A THUMB. 
          BUT DYNETTE CAN'T EVEN LOOK. MISS DAVIS CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. SHOW ME THOSE THUMBS UP OR DOWN. STAR STUDENTS. 
          ALL OF YOU. YES, THAT IS VERY PASSIVE. IT HAS SOME GOOD WORDS IN THERE,
SOME GOOD BUZZWORDS. 
          BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE SUBSTITUTING TECHNOLOGY FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD TALK ABOUT,
THAT THEY COULD WATCH TOGETHER AND HAVE SOME WELL PLACED DISCUSSION QUESTIONS. SO WE'RE JUST PUTTING HEADPHONES ON AND NOT ENGAGING WITH EACH OTHER,
NOT COLLABORATING, NOT LEARNING FROM THE EXPERT, WHICH IS THE ROOM. 
          EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM IS THE EXPERT. SO THIS IS JUST A PLAIN SUBSTITUTION. 
          SO IT'S SUPER, SUPER PASSIVE. THEY'RE NOT PRODUCING ANYTHING THAT SHOWS THEIR THINKING. 
          SO THERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES THERE FOR YOU. SO HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE
CONTEXT AS WE CONTINUE THROUGH. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO BUILD HEALTHY DIGITAL HABITS WITH OUR
STUDENTS. 
          AND AND FRANKLY, THIS IS GOING TO BE A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR STUDENTS. 
          BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY DON'T KNOW THEY NEED A BREAK. 
          AND SO THAT'S A CONVERSATION NOT ONLY WITH OUR STAFF AND OUR TEACHERS,
BUT ALSO WITH THE STUDENTS TOGETHER. 
          THIS IS KIND OF WHAT CHANGED OUR MINDS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT A,
THE TIME SHIFT WOULD BE. 
          THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS AT ONE POINT IN TIME HAD HAD A STANCE ON THIS GRADE
LEVEL, OR THIS AGE LEVEL NEEDS X AMOUNT OF MAX NUMBER OF MINUTES. 
          AND IN FEBRUARY OF 26, THEY CHANGED THEIR STANCE BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT A LOT OF TIMES
IT'S THE QUALITY OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING ON A DEVICE VERSUS THE QUANTITY. AND SO THEY CAME BACK AND TALKED A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE FOCUS OF
THE QUALITY AND CONTEXT OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH DIGITAL MEDIA OVER JUST AN X AMOUNT OF SCREEN TIME. AND SO WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER
GROUP, THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF OPHTHALMOLOGY AND AMERICAN ATOMIC TRICK ASSOCIATION,
AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS 22ND RULE. 
          AND FOR EVERY 20 MINUTES, WE ALL NEED TO DO THIS IF YOU CAN,
IF YOU'RE EVER ABLE TO SIT DOWN LONGER THAN 20 MINUTES AT A TIME. 
          A LOT OF TIMES I FEEL LIKE OUR TEACHERS PROBABLY AREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT,
BUT FOR EVERY 20 MINUTES SPENT LOOKING AT A SCREEN, TAKE A 22ND BREAK TO LOOK AT AN OBJECT LOCATED 20FT AWAY. 
          AND I WAS SHARING THIS WITH ONE OF OUR MANAGING DIRECTOR GROUP FOR T&L. 
          AND, AND SHE WAS LIKE, I JUST WENT TO THE EYE DOCTOR. 
          AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY TOLD ME. AND SO SO IT'S SO WE THOUGHT THAT THAT HELD TO BE
TRUE. 
          AND WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT INTENTIONAL PLANNING. THERE'S ALSO THIS,
THIS THOUGHT OF FOR EVERY MINUTE YOU'RE ON, YOUR STUDENTS ARE ON A COMPUTER, YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT MANY MINUTES OR MORE OFF OF A
COMPUTER. 
          AND SO THOSE ARE GUIDELINES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE DO HAVE THESE LOOK AT THE THIRD ROW
OR SECTION, THE DIGITAL LEARNING GUIDELINES THAT WES REFERRED TO FOR YOU ALL. 
          AND I CAN PUT A COPY OF THIS IN HOME BASE. IT'S AN INTERNAL DOCUMENT AND WE'VE UPDATED IT
TO MAKE IT RELEVANT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. 
          WE'VE ADDED SOME AI INFORMATION IN THERE AND DIGITAL HEALTH ABOUT EVEN ABOUT,
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT OUR KIDS HUNCHED OVER JUST WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR A DIGITAL ILLNESS? AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THERE SPECIFIED 20 MINUTE CHUNKS OF TIME. 
          AND THAT KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH THAT 20 MINUTES LOOK AWAY PIECE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT
AND THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING 20 MINUTES FOR THE WHOLE DAY, BUT WE WOULD REALLY, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY SAYING THAT GOOD PRACTICE IS YOU SHOULD ONLY AT
THE MOST BE 20 MINUTES CHUNKS OF TIME, TAKE SOME BREAK TABLE TALK, SHOULDER PARTNERS,
WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING IN THE CLASSROOM AND THEN CONTINUE ON. 
          [00:25:06]
THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT I THINK ONE OF YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT AND I THINK,
KEITH, IT WAS YOU. 
          WE NOW HAVE A NEW FEATURE ON OUR FILTER WHERE WE CAN MONITOR SCREEN TIME. 
          THAT WAS PRETTY HARD FOR US TO DO IN THE PAST,
BUT AND THIS IS NEW. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE KINKS WITH IT,
BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A REPORT FOR OUR CAMPUSES AND JUST LET THEM BE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR CAMPUSES SO THAT WE CAN KNOW WHAT ARE THE TOP 20
APPLICATIONS THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE USING FOR YOUR CAMPUS AND FOR THE DISTRICT. 
          AND WE CAN ALSO LOOK AND SEE HOW LONG THEY'RE ON IT. 
          AND AND WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO OUR CAMPUSES SO THEY CAN BE AWARE. 
          ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE ALSO TALKED TO THEM WITH OUR TOUR OF TALKING TO,
TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE ABOUT OUR, THESE UPDATES. WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT WHAT,
WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO WHAT AS A PRINCIPAL, DOES IT LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU'RE DOING LEARNING WALKS AND, OR YOU'RE SITTING IN ON PLANNING? WHAT ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN ASK TO
MAKE SURE THAT OUR STUDENT, THAT OUR TEACHERS ARE REALLY INTENTIONAL WITH THEIR PLANNING. 
          I WILL TELL YOU, BEFORE WE WENT, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
TECHNOLOGY AND PURCHASING THAT IT'S BEEN ABOUT 6 YEARS WHEN WE STARTED 1 TO 1, WHEN WE DIDN'T RELY ON CARTS IN THE CLASSROOM AT ALL GRADE LEVELS. 
          AND I, THIS IS WHAT I KIND OF TOLD OUR PRINCIPALS IS LIKE,
Y'ALL REMEMBER IF YOU WERE AS OLD AS ME AND CAN REMEMBER BACK TO PRETTY MUCH 2019, WE USED TO BE REAL INTENTIONAL AS A TEACHER ABOUT PLANNING FOR TECHNOLOGY,
BECAUSE I HAD TO GO FIND THAT CART, MAKE SURE IT WAS CHARGED. EVERYTHING WAS CHARGED THAT IT HAD THE RIGHT APPLICATIONS ON IT, ALL THE STUFF TO MAKE IT WORK WHEN I FINALLY GOT IT TO THE CLASSROOM. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO ME, THAT'S KIND OF GOING BACK TO THAT MODE. 
          EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE MORE ACCESSIBILITY TO THOSE DIGITAL DEVICES,
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE PLANNING GOES OUT THE WINDOW THAT WE REALLY WE NEED TO KIND OF TREAT IT LIKE IT WAS 2019 WHEN WE HAD THOSE CARTS AND I GUESS THAT'S THOSE ARE THE 3. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER THING WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT IS VIDEOS. 
          WE NOW HAVE THE OPTION TO ONLY ALLOW VIDEOS CATEGORIZED AS EDUCATIONAL TO BE ABLE FOR OUR
PARENTS, FOR OUR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO SEE THEM IN LIKE FOR YOUTUBE. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT WILL HELP TO SO THAT THEY'RE MAYBE NOT GOING TO WANT TO BE ON THERE
WHEN THEY THINK THEY HAVE FREE TIME AND TELLING THE TEACHER, I'VE GOT FREE TIME, I'D LIKE TO GET ON,
YOU KNOW, YOUTUBE, THEN THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE VIDEOS THAT ARE MARKED AS EDUCATIONAL. SO WE'VE GOT THOSE 3 UPDATES. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT KIND OF
HOW WE'RE GOING TO KNOW? YES. CAN I GET A FOLLOW UP? SURE. SO I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT WHEN YOU SAID TYPES OF SOFTWARE. 
          CAN YOU JUST KIND OF TOUCH ON THAT SO EVERYONE WILL KNOW WE HAVE MULTIPLE,
I GUESS BRANDS OR POSSIBILITY IS IT GOING TO BE SCALABLE? IS IT TIERED? I COULD USE THE SAME SOFTWARE IN THE 3RD GRADE. 
          AND AS YOU GET TO MAYBE THE 7TH AND THE 9TH GRADE,
THERE ARE MORE BELLS AND WHISTLES ADDED TO IT. 
          IS IT UNIVERSAL? WE'RE USING OFF THE SHELF OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE ONLY TO. 
          IT DEPENDS. OUR, NOW OUR FILTER IS GOING TO LOOK AT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE ONLINE. 
          AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S THINGS THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED. FOR INSTANCE SCHOOL AI COMES
THROUGH AND WE HAVE PURCHASED THAT TO USE. 
          AND SO THAT WOULD WOULD APPEAR. THERE ARE ALSO FREE TOOLS THAT THEY MAY BE USED IN THE
CLASSROOM. 
          AND THEY MAY BE NEWER TO US THAT THEY WERE INTRODUCED AND SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE AS
WELL. 
          AND IT DEPENDS LIKE SCHOOL AI AND ANOTHER ONE CALLED CAMI. 
          THOSE ARE ALL APPLICATIONS THAT CAN BE USED THROUGH K THROUGH 12. 
          BUT THERE ARE SOMETIMES LIKE PAM OR WOULD TALK TO YOU ABOUT ZURN,
STEM SCOPES FOR, SPECIFICALLY FOR MATH. 
          SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WERE ELEMENTARY SPECIFIC,
BUT AS THEY APPEAR AND AS THEY'RE BEING USED, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THEM IF THEY'RE IN THE TOP 20 LIST,
OR WE CAN SEE THAT ON THIS REPORT. 
          AND JUST THE LAST PORTION OF THAT. SO EXPOSING OUR KIDS TO THIS,
WILL THIS ALLOW THEM TO EASILY, I GUESS, TRANSITION TO THE TOP BRAND NAMES THAT YOU HEAR ABOUT? I WON'T CALL THEIR NAMES, BUT THE OTHER COMMON SOFTWARE THAT ADULTS USE. 
          SO YES, I MEAN, WE DO HAVE INDUSTRY STANDARD SOFTWARE THAT WE USE FOR OUR,
ESPECIALLY OUR CTE CLASSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS BUILDING FOR OUR STUDENTS TO GET THEM READY
FOR WHATEVER IS NEXT FOR THEM, WHETHER IT'S MIDDLE SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL OR AFTER SCHOOL AFTER HIGH SCHOOL. 
          OKAY. I HAVE IT'S NOT A FOLLOW UP QUESTION AND IT'S OKAY IF YOU NEED TO ANSWER IT AT THE
END OR IF YOU NEED TO SEND US THIS, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF WE HAVE A LIST OF THE TOOLS THAT WE USE AND CAN WE DIFFERENTIATE? THE ONES WE PAY FOR VERSUS THOSE THAT ARE FREE. 
          [00:30:03]
LIKE FOR THE BOARD. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN ACCESS WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED? I KNOW THAT KIMBERLY PROVIDES US AN AMAZING LIST OF ALL OF OUR VENDORS AND OUR COSTS,
BUT IS THERE A SPACE WHERE WE CAN SEE IT IN ONE PLACE? WHAT WE PAY FOR VERSUS WHAT'S FREE? YEAH. OKAY. 
          WE CAN THERE'S RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT ONE IN JUST ONE SPECIFIC PLACE,
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK TOWARDS. 
          YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. KIND OF ALONG THOSE LINES HAVE ON THE 3RD ONE WHERE IT SAYS
ESTABLISH UNIFIED DISTRICT NORMS INSTRUCTION AND AI. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF AI OPTIONS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. 
          SO HAVE WE CONSIDERED BEING A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC ON WHAT AI TOOLS ARE TO BE USED BY
STUDENTS. 
          SO STUDENTS, WE ARE ONLY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS USE GEMINI BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT BUILT INTO
OUR KIND OF WALLED GARDEN. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SCHOOL AI THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED THAT WE USE WITH OUR GRADE
LEVELS, K PRE-K THROUGH 12TH GRADE. THOSE ARE THE ONLY LIKE,
I GUESS THINGS THAT WE HAVE FOR THEM TO USE CURRENTLY. RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S ON THEIR DEVICES. 
          CORRECT. BUT THEN WE ALSO KNOW THEY GO HOME AND THEY USE THEIR PERSONAL DEVICES. 
          SURE. SO JUST TO BE SPECIFIC ON WHAT IS AND WHAT IS NOT A RELIABLE YOU KNOW,
ALLOWABLE FOR THEM TO USE FOR THEIR WORK. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. 
          YOU MENTIONED A REPORT THAT'S GOING TO BE SENT OUT TO THE CAMPUSES OF THE TOP 20
APPLICATIONS. 
          WHO WILL DO THE MONITORING? I MEAN, WHAT IS. I GUESS I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WHAT'S THE END
RESULT OF THAT, THAT REPORT. LIKE IT'S REALLY KNOWLEDGE FOR US TO KNOW. 
          LIKE WE KIND OF PULLED IT THE OTHER DAY, BUT IT WAS AT EUPHORIA. 
          I MEAN, IT WAS CANVAS. I MEAN, IT WASN'T LIKE THINGS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE ON. 
          IT'S, IT JUST KIND OF GIVES US ALSO A KNOWLEDGE OF HOW OFTEN ARE THEY ON A SPECIFIC
APPLICATION THAT WE'RE ALLOWING THEM TO BE ON. 
          SO BUT IT COULD BE THAT IF THEY'RE ON AND THEY'RE TRYING TO BYPASS OUR FILTER,
WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AS WELL. 
          BUT THE TOP 20 REALLY, IT'S KIND OF TO LET US SEE WHAT THEY'RE USING. 
          THEN WE CAN MONITOR WHAT WHAT THEY ARE. WE CAN SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE WEREN'T
FAMILIAR WITH, AND WE CAN GO IN AND LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE IT STILL SHOULD BE ALLOWED. 
          AND IF NOT, THEN WE CAN GET WITH OUR COMMITTEE TO DECIDE TO FILTER IT,
FILTER IT, OR MAYBE IT'S GOOD FOR HIGH SCHOOL, BUT MAYBE NOT FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          SO I HAD A COUPLE THINGS. FIRST, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US
PROACTIVELY. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON MY MIND PROBABLY MY WHOLE TIME ON THE BOARD,
QUITE FRANKLY. 
          AND I ACTUALLY ASKED SPECIFICALLY TO BE ON THE TECHNOLOGY SUBCOMMITTEE THIS YEAR BECAUSE I
WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESSED THIS, AND YOU ALL WERE SEVERAL STEPS AHEAD OF ME, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I THINK IT'S TIME TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. WE HEAR OTHER DISTRICTS,
NOT JUST IN NORTH TEXAS, BUT EVEN OUTSIDE OF TEXAS, THAT ARE COMING UP WITH GUIDELINES,
STANDARDS, LIMITS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE STUDIES THAT ARE BACKING UP. 
          YOU REFERENCE ONE, BUT THERE ARE MANY OTHERS THAT SHOW THAT TOO MUCH SCREEN TIME FOR ALL
PEOPLE, BUT ESPECIALLY YOUNG BRAINS CAN CAUSE DAMAGE. 
          AND I THINK WE ALSO SEE THAT ANECDOTALLY. I KNOW I SEE THAT IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SO USED TO BEING ON THE SCREENS THAT THEY HAVE A HARD TIME RELATING TO
PEOPLE. 
          AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE PREPARE OUR STUDENTS FOR LIFE AFTER FRISCO
ISD, WE'RE PREPARING THEM FOR THAT TOO. AND SO I'M REALLY THRILLED TO SEE THIS TODAY. 
          AND I THINK WE'RE DEFINITELY ON THE RIGHT TRACK. 
          EXCUSE ME, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON SOMETHING THAT KEITH SAID,
THOUGH, I, I WOULD BE A LITTLE CONCERNED TO LEAVE THIS ENTIRELY UP TO THE TEACHERS BECAUSE I DO SHARE THE CONCERN THAT KEITH MENTIONED AROUND. 
          THIS COULD GET INTERPRETED AND TRANSLATED VERY DIFFERENTLY. 
          AND YOU COULD HAVE STUDENTS AT ONE CAMPUS OR EVEN IN THE SAME CAMPUS THAT HAVE VERY
DIFFERENT STANDARDS. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO NOT WANT TO PUT TOO MUCH CONTROL OVER THE TEACHERS AND TOO MUCH
DIRECTION. 
          BUT I THINK MAYBE THERE'S SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN OVER MANAGING IT AND MANAGING
IT. 
          AND SO I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT WE TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT. 
          MAYBE MAYBE WE DO THAT IN TECHNOLOGY SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          JUST TAKE A LOOK AT MAYBE WHAT SOME OTHER DISTRICTS ARE DOING. 
          [00:35:03]
AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE NOT TO SAY IT'S GOING TO BE THIS MANY MINUTES FOR THIS
GRADE AND THIS MANY MINUTES FOR THAT GRADE. 
          I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GO TO THAT. LIKE SOME DISTRICTS HAVE DONE,
BUT I DO THINK LEAVING IT TOTALLY OPEN MIGHT CAUSE SOME STUDENTS EXPERIENCE TO NOT CHANGE ALL THAT MUCH. SURE. 
          EVEN WITH REPORTING, YOU KNOW, WE GET LOTS OF DATA. 
          IT'S WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE DATA? SO I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT MAYBE WE TAKE THAT UP IN
TECHNOLOGY SUBCOMMITTEE THIS YEAR AND COME UP WITH SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE. 
          AND I DO, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVEN'T HAD TRUE GOOD REPORTING ON JUST MONITORING HOW MUCH IS
SPENT HERE IN THE DISTRICT ON, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH STUDENTS ARE SPENT ON IT. SO I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO
TRY AND SEE WHAT THIS WHAT THIS DATA GIVES US AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT. 
          AND SO I THINK, I THINK OUR SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO START. YEAH. 
          SO WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A CONSISTENT MESSAGE. 
          AND THIS IS THE JUST THE TOP BLURB OF OUR DIGITAL LEARNING GUIDELINES THAT IT'S AN
INTERNAL DOCUMENT LIKE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT,
YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT IT JUST BEING TECHNOLOGY BEING THE PRIMARY ROLE IN THE CLASSROOM IS TO ENHANCE TEACHING AND SUPPORT STUDENT LEARNING,
AND THAT WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE USED AS A FILLER ACTIVITY, UNSTRUCTURED, FREE TIME, UNSUPERVISED OR RECREATIONAL USE FOR THE TECHNOLOGY. 
          AND SO I, I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO SEE THAT, THAT IT'S,
IT'S IN THE GUIDELINES. 
          THERE'S MORE SPECIFIC GUIDELINES AND I'LL PUT IT IN HOME BASE FOR YOU. SO YOU DO HAVE IT.
THESE WERE JUST KIND OF TOPICS ABOUT THAT WE TALKED TO OUR PRINCIPALS ABOUT AT PRINCIPAL MEETING. WE'VE TALKED TO T&L ABOUT IT. 
          WE'VE GOT OTHER MEETINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE,
BUT IT'S JUST REITERATING THE BALANCE OF ACTIVE ONLINE WORK WITH OFFLINE WORK. 
          THE MOVEMENT NOT REPLACE, YOU KNOW, GOOD TEACHING IS GOOD TEACHING. 
          AND WE ALWAYS WANT OUR STUDENTS TO BE ENGAGED IN WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING. 
          AND SO WITH THAT, WITH INTENTIONAL PLANNING,
INTENTIONAL USE OF TECHNOLOGY, WE FEEL LIKE THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          WE DON'T WANT THEM FILLING OUT ONLINE DIGITAL WORKSHEETS. 
          THAT'S STILL JUST REPLACING SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE JUST AS EASILY OFFLINE. 
          SO YOU KNOW, WE JUST, AND WE DON'T WANT NECESSARILY DIGITAL,
ANY KIND OF WORKSHEET FOR THAT MATTER, BUT THERE'S A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING. 1 THING I DO WANT YOU TO SEE IS OUR TIMELINE
OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE'VE KIND OF BROUGHT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR. WE STARTED RIGHT WHEN WE GOT BACK. 
          WE HIT HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, TALKING TO THE MDOS OF SCHOOLS,
THE STUDENT SERVICES GROUP, GUIDANCE AND COUNSELING. WE TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THIS. 
          WE HAD A PRESENTATION FOR THEM TEACHING AND LEARNING CABINET. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF OR A COUPLE HOURS ON THAT,
AND WE'LL BE CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION. 
          AND THIS IS ONE THING THAT WHEN WE STARTED TALKING TO EVERYBODY ABOUT THIS,
THIS IS NOT BLOODBORNE PATHOGEN COMPLIANCE TRAINING, RIGHT? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S AN ONGOING CONVERSATION WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE. 
          STOP TALKING ABOUT IT. WE'RE GOING TO GATHER DATA AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO REFINE
AND IMPROVE. 
          BUT YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DATES. IT'S YELLOW FOR AUGUST 3RD BECAUSE WE'RE HERE. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT WE WILL BE POSTING INFORMATION ON OUR DISTRICT WEBSITE UNDER THE
TECHNOLOGY SPECIFIC SITE TOMORROW. 
          WE DO HAVE CAMPUS TRAINING THAT THE DIGITAL LEARNING COACHES HAVE ARE WORKING WITH THE
PRINCIPALS ON. 
          AND THEN AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS AN ONGOING DIALOG. 
          WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT LONG BEFORE WE GOT HERE,
AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT IT. 
          AND THEN LIKE I SAID, ONCE I FEEL CERTAIN THAT OUR,
OUR REPORTS THAT WE CAN GATHER NOW ARE ACCURATE, THEN WE WILL START SENDING THOSE TO CAMPUS LEADERSHIP FOR AN AWARENESS. 
          SO WE MADE IT THROUGH. CAN I ADD SOMETHING REAL QUICK? YOU HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS? DYNETTE. I'M NOT SURE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION,
SO I'LL REPHRASE IT. 
          I'LL GET WITH YOU. OKAY. I THINK I MIGHT HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT MIGHT HELP A LITTLE
BIT. 
          SO I WAS TAKING NOTES AS YOU GUYS WERE ASKING QUESTIONS. 
          AND JUST SO I WANT TO REITERATE WE HAVE HAD SOME DIGITAL LEARNING GUIDELINES IN THE PAST. 
          WE ARE RE HIGHLIGHTING THESE THINGS, HAVING REALLY GOOD DIALOG WITH OUR LEADERS. 
          CHERYL AND ASHLEY HAVE SPENT THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS TALKING TO COUNTLESS GROUPS,
MAKING CERTAIN THAT EVERYBODY HAD THIS CHANCE TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, GO OVER IT WITH THEM, ASK QUESTIONS, LEARN FROM EACH OTHER,
MAKE SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS AND TWEAKS, AND THEN I I'D BE REMISS IF YOU DIDN'T NOTICE THAT THE EXPECTATION IS ALL OF OUR CAMPUS
TEACHERS ARE BEING TRAINED ON THIS. 
          HERE IN BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS. AND SO BY THE TIME WE GET TO STUDENTS JOINING US WE HAVE
REITERATED OUR EXPECTATIONS, OUR GUIDELINES. WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN OUR CLASSROOM. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE BRINGING THIS BACK UP FOR YOU ALL,
BUT ALSO OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR, OUR STAFF. AND YOU TALK ABOUT MISS DAVIS, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION ABOUT LESSON PLANNING. 
          WE DO HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT OUR TEACHERS ARE OPERATING IN PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
COMMUNITY. 
          THEY'RE WORKING WITH EACH OTHER. THEY'RE WORKING WITH. 
          [00:40:03]
I'VE GOT A LIST HERE, SO I DON'T FORGET SOMEBODY BECAUSE I ALWAYS DO GOT DIGITAL LEARNING
COACHES. WE HAVE INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES LANGUAGE COACHES, WE HAVE SPECIAL ED LIAISONS AND SPECIAL EDUCATION ICS. 
          THEY'VE GOT ADMIN COMING IN. WE'VE GOT AN EXPECTATION THAT THEY ARE HAVING SOME ROBUST
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT INTENTIONAL PLANNING IN THE CLASSROOM. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES THESE GUIDELINES, THIS INTENTIONAL USE OF TECHNOLOGY. 
          AND SO WHEN OUR OUR TEACHERS ARE UP DOING THEIR AMAZING JOB WITH OUR STUDENTS,
THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK BEHIND THE SCENES THAT GOES INTO THAT. 
          SO THAT WE DO HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT THERE'S A LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OUR STAFF AND
OUR OUR CAMPUS LEADERSHIP TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WHAT YOU WHAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU IS ACTUALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CLASSROOM. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT REALLY GETS TO THE
HEART OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, BUT I WROTE THAT DOWN AS YOU WERE TALKING BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT THING TO ADD TO YOU. ONE LAST JUST QUICK QUESTION. 
          ARE WE GOING TO BE REQUIRED OR DO WE NEED TO GET ANY KIND OF PERMISSION FROM PARENTS THAT
WE'RE EXPOSING, OR ARE THE LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE USING,
IS THAT GOING TO BE REQUIRED OR IS THIS JUST BASICALLY CONSIDERED PART OF THE CURRICULUM SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANY EXTRA STEPS. SO IT'S IN WHEN THEY WHEN PARENTS GO INTO
ONLINE REGISTRATION, THERE'S A SECTION THERE ABOUT WHAT WE USE IN THE CLASSROOM FOR TECHNOLOGY,
AND THEY CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT APPLICATIONS AND STUFF WE USE. 
          AND THEY AND THEY SIGN OFF. I MEAN, THEY, I WAS JUST THINKING AHEAD,
I HATE TO EVEN SAY TO PUT THIS OUT THERE. 
          THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE WHERE YOU CAN OPT OUT THINGS. 
          WE GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE SOME PEOPLE OR PARENTS MAY NOT LIKE THIS PARTICULAR
SOFTWARE, AND MAYBE THEY WANT TO USE THEIR OWN, OR THEY HAVE SOMETHING THEY WANT TO PREFER THEIR KID
USE THIS ONE BECAUSE THEY USE IT AT HOME. 
          AND THEN NOW WE HAVE CONFLICTING ISSUES. SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE
ON THAT. 
          IF THERE, IF THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT WANT THEIR
STUDENT TO USE, THEN THE THE PROCESS IS TO EMAIL THE PRINCIPAL AND THEN WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT WITH WHAT
WE WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. 
          OKAY. IF IT'S A SPECIFIC SOFTWARE APPLICATION OR WHATEVER,
IT'S IT'S COME UP BEFORE. 
          OKAY. WELL, OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. AND WE'LL BE FOLLOWING UP. 
          PLANNING. DO YOU GUYS NEED A BRAIN BREAK BEFORE WE COMPLETELY CHANGE TOPICS OR YOU WANT TO
JUST ROLL RIGHT INTO IT. 
          YOU WANT TO DO IT IN 3 MINUTES, THAT'S FINE. 20. 
          20. 20. YEAH. QUICK BRAIN BREAK. WE'LL TAKE A 5. 
          HOW LONG ARE YOU IN? 5 MINUTES. WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT. 
          I'M READY. 5 MINUTE BREAK. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO 
          [2. Discussion regarding Facility Planning ]
OUR DISCUSSION REGARDING FACILITY PLANNING. READY? OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO NO FANCY PRESENTATION FROM ME TONIGHT. 
          BUT YOU DO HAVE SOME SOME TALKING POINTS AND A HANDOUT PRINTED IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          REALLY THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT IS THE THERE'S,
THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED OF YOU GUYS, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS TO KIND OF ESTABLISH AN UNDERSTANDING AND CONSENSUS ABOUT MOVING FORWARD
WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR BOND PLANNING THIS FALL. SO BACK IN JUNE, I THINK IT WAS WE HAD OUR SUSTAINABILITY PLAN WORKSHOP AND WE
TALKED ABOUT HOW WE ARE DOWN TO A LITTLE OVER $100 MILLION IN CAPITAL FUNDS THAT WE'RE MANAGING LEFT OVER
FROM THE 2018 BOND PROGRAM PLUS SOME REVENUE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED OVER TIME. RIGHT? AND WE HAVE DEFERRED SOME PROJECTS ALONG THE WAY TO MAKE THAT STRETCH AS LONG AS WE COULD. 
          THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS THAT THAT 100 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS WILL BE EXHAUSTED IN THE NEXT 12
TO 18 MONTHS. 
          WHICH MEANS THAT IT'S TIME TO START THINKING ABOUT REINVESTMENT AND A NEW BOND PLAN. 
          SO WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION IN JUNE. WE DID HEAR SOME CONCERNS FROM SEVERAL OF YOU ABOUT THE
IDEA THAT WE ARE ALSO DECLINING IN ENROLLMENT AND WE'RE HAVING CAPACITY CONVERSATIONS. 
          AND SO WE JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WE HEARD THAT. 
          AND AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT. AND WE WILL BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT AS WE GO THROUGH
THIS PROCESS IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH PLANNING FOR THE BOND. 
          OUR RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW IS TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH PUTTING TOGETHER A BOND
COMMITTEE AND PLANNING FOR A MAY OF 2027 ELECTION. 
          WE HAVE STARTED SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY GROUNDWORK JUST TO,
JUST TO PLAN FOR WHAT THAT PROCESS MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND HOW IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM 
          [00:45:03]
THE 2024 BOND PLANNING. YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE HAVE STARTED SOME STRATEGIC FOCUS GROUPS WITH
COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE VERY PLUGGED IN TO THE COMMUNITY,
HAVE LARGE NETWORKS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY SOME WHO SUPPORTED THE 2024 BOND AND SOME WHO DID NOT SUPPORT THE 2024 BOND. AND THOSE FOCUS GROUPS HAVE REALLY BEEN A CHANCE FOR US TO
LISTEN TO WHAT WAS RIGHT ABOUT THAT BOND PLANNING PROCESS AND WHAT WE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER, AND WHAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER DOING AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          IN, IN NOT JUST BOND PLANNING, BUT LONG RANGE FACILITY PLANNING IN GENERAL. 
          WE HAVE HAD 2 OF 5 FOCUS GROUPS SO FAR. AND YOU GUYS HAVE A FEW TALKING POINTS ON YOUR
SHEET. 
          I WON'T READ THEM OUT TO YOU, BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THEY,
THESE FOCUS GROUPS HAVE BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE FOR US. 
          WE'RE GETTING SOME REALLY GREAT CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK. 
          AND WHEN I SAY POSITIVE, I DON'T MEAN EVERYONE IN THE ROOM IS SINGING OUR PRAISES. 
          RIGHT. THEY'VE BEEN VERY CONSTRUCTIVE. WE'VE GOTTEN SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS FROM THE
COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING. 
          WE HAVE AFFIRMED SOME THINGS THAT WE KIND OF THOUGHT THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CHANGE THE NEXT
TIME WE GO THROUGH BOND PLANNING. 
          SO IT'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD EXERCISE FOR US TO GO THROUGH. 
          AND I THINK THESE THESE LISTENING SESSIONS ARE BEING ARE REALLY BENEFICIAL. 
          WHAT YOU HAVE, I'M NOT GOING TO TALK TOO MUCH. 
          WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE HANDOUT IN FRONT OF YOU IS KIND OF JUST AN OUTLINE OF THOSE TALKING
POINTS. 
          AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A SAMPLE PLANNING TIMELINE FOR WHAT BOND PLANNING MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 
          IF WE GO OUT FOR A MAY OF 2027 ELECTION. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A
CHANCE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE OR VOICE ANY, ANY CONCERNS OR THOUGHTS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BEFORE WE START THIS BECAUSE AS
YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SAMPLE TIMELINE, IF WE WANT TO HAVE AN ELECTION IN MAY THAT HAS TO START ESSENTIALLY TOMORROW,
RIGHT? AND SO, SO SOME OF THIS WORK WOULD START IN AUGUST. 
          AND SO I THINK REALLY THAT'S THE SETUP UNLESS DOCTOR FOUCHE WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING,
BUT OTHERWISE I'LL MAYBE TURN IT OVER TO YOU. 
          KEITH. SURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, KIM. THANKS FOR KIMBERLY FOR DOING THIS. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS I KNOW THAT ALWAYS COMES UP AND IF YOU ARE TIRED OR IF SOMEONE COULD
SPEAK TO. 
          SO COULD YOU JUST KIND OF HIGH LEVEL, YOU KNOW,
GET INTO THE DETAILS, WHAT WOULD BE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE WOULD FOCUS THE BOND ON THAT WOULD BE OUR PLANS AS WE'RE DOING IT STRATEGICALLY TO ADDRESS. 
          AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALSO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT IN JUNE IS THE NEXT,
THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM. 
          WE'RE REALLY IN A POSITION WHERE IT'S NEEDS BASED. 
          WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FACILITIES THAT ARE TURNING 20,
25 YEARS OLD THAT ARE IN NEED OF WHAT I'LL CALL A REFRESH, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, RIGHT? SOME OF IT'S COSMETIC IN FLOORING AND PAINT AND CARPET. 
          SOME OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, HVAC REPLACEMENTS COMING DUE BECAUSE THEY'RE AT THE END OF THEIR
LIFE CYCLE. 
          BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE JUST GOOD FACILITY MAINTENANCE. 
          RIGHT. IF YOU OWN A HOME FOR A LONG TIME, IT'S THINGS THAT YOU WOULD DO TO MAINTAIN THE,
THE VALUE AND THE, THE LIFE OF YOUR HOME. SO IT'S THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          THERE'S ALSO A COMPONENT OF TECHNOLOGY REPLACEMENT. 
          AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT CHROMEBOOKS OR IPADS. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S NETWORK EQUIPMENT. THERE'S YOU KNOW,
SERVERS, THERE'S SECURITY CAMERAS, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT IS,
IS CONSIDERED TECHNOLOGY, RIGHT? THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. RIGHT. 
          AT THE END OF ITS USEFUL LIFE. SO THERE'S A COMPONENT OF THAT. 
          AND THEN THE KIND OF THE THIRD COMPONENT IS REALLY WHAT WE TYPICALLY CALL FF&E. 
          FURNITURE, FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT. AND SO, AND THAT'S EVERYTHING FROM REPLACING BROKEN
CAFETERIA TABLES TO REPLACING OLD BAND INSTRUMENTS AND FOOTBALL HELMETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT,
THAT LAST, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS OR SO, AND THEN THEY'VE REACHED THE END OF THEIR LIFE. AND WE,
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STUDENTS HAVE GOOD EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'RE USING IN THEIR PROGRAMS. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE 3 KEY PIECES THAT I WOULD SAY WOULD GO INTO THIS. 
          DID I MISS ANYTHING? COULD YOU ALSO, AND I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY,
COULD YOU SPEAK TO HOW WE CAN'T SOLELY DEPEND ON TOURS TO CARRY US THROUGH TO SATISFY OUR NEEDS? IT'S A GREAT FUN, BUT IT DOESN'T QUITE GET IT IS. 
          WELL, AND ACTUALLY WE ARE USING THE GREAT MAJORITY OF IT NOW TO HELP BALANCE OUR OPERATING
BUDGET. 
          SO WHILE WE RECEIVE ROUGHLY $30 MILLION A YEAR BACK IN TOURIST REVENUE FOR THE DISTRICT
THE MAJORITY 
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OF THAT IS GOING TOWARDS OUR OPERATING BUDGET AT THAT POINT,
AT THIS POINT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT IN BUDGET PLANNING OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO THAT ESSENTIALLY THAT MONEY CAN GO EITHER TOWARDS CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENTS OR TOWARDS THE OPERATING COSTS TO MAINTAIN THE USEFUL LIFE OF OF A FACILITY. SO LIKE KEEPING THE ELECTRICITY ON AND THAT
KIND OF THING. 
          SO DEPENDING ON WHERE, YOU KNOW, UTILITIES COSTS AND THOSE TYPE PROPERTY INSURANCE,
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS FALL IN A GIVEN YEAR. 
          I'D SAY WE ARE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY 7,
$8 MILLION KIND OF LEFT OVER THAT WE HAVE NOT USED FOR OPERATING COSTS. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, WE ARE PLANNING TO SPEND ROUGHLY $100 MILLION JUST IN THE NEXT 12 TO 18
MONTHS. 
          AND THAT IS JUST ON HIGH PRIORITY CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          AND SO 7 TO $8 MILLION A YEAR IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A DENT IN THE CAPITAL NEEDS OF OUR
FACILITIES. 
          WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 76 CAMPUSES AND ALL OF THAT. 
          I'LL KIND OF JUMP IN. YOU KNOW, DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IS A REAL THING TOO. 
          AND WE ARE CURRENTLY DEFERRING MAINTENANCE ON THINGS BECAUSE WE FAILED THE 2024 BOND
PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT WILL END UP WITH MORE COSTS, MORE THINGS BREAKING. 
          AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY PRIDEFUL OF OUR FACILITIES AS I DRIVE AROUND TOWN,
AND THAT OUR FACILITIES ADD TO OR LOOK BETTER OR AS GOOD AS ANY OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          AND THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY THE CASE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT LANDSCAPING,
WHEN YOU LOOK AT FLAT WORK, A LOT OF THE CONCRETE WORK AT OUR BUILDINGS THINGS MOVE IN THIS TOWN AND I'M TALKING ABOUT
THE SOIL. 
          SO JUST WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FACILITIES ARE STILL A BRIGHT SPOT FOR OUR
COMMUNITY. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S, WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S NOT,
IT FEELS LIKE THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE MUCH LONGER. 
          EXCELLENT POINT. 
          OH, OKAY. SO BOARD OPENED IT UP. ANY COMMENTS OR. 
          I'M SORRY. I DID NOT SEE. IT'S OKAY. I WON'T I'M NOT OFFENDED. 
          TO DOCTOR FOUCHES, I HAVE A QUESTION AS A FOLLOW UP TO WHAT HE JUST SHARED. 
          YOU MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE DEFERRED SOME, SOME COSTS. 
          CAN YOU SHARE LIKE A GUESSTIMATE OF WHAT THE DEFERMENTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE? I KNOW THAT WE HAD SOME NEEDS EVEN BEFORE GOING INTO THAT 2024 BOND ELECTION. 
          AND SO I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY
LOOKING AT TO DATE. 
          YEAH, WE CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. IT WOULD BE LIKE SPREADSHEETS OF THINGS LIKE BOILERS AND
HVAC SYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY GET THAT FOR YOU. THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN KIMBERLY AS IT RELATES TO THE TERMS AGREEMENT OR THE TERMS FUNDING WE KNOW THAT
IT'S, WE'RE CURRENTLY USING THE MAJORITY OF THAT FOR OUR OPERATING BUDGET. 
          CAN YOU AND AGAIN, YOU CAN GET THIS TO ME AT ANY TIME,
CAN YOU, I'D LIKE TO SEE EXACTLY LIKE FUNDING WISE A COMPARISON. I KNOW THAT WE DID UTILIZE IT FOR OTHER PURPOSES,
LIKE WHICH IS, WHICH IS EASIER FOR US, THE OPERATING OR THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHEN YOU SAY EASIER, I MEAN NOT EASIER, BUT WHAT ARE WE WHAT CAN WE COVER MORE OF WITH
THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY? OH YEAH. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO YES, DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS IN THE SPRING,
I PUT TOGETHER A SPREADSHEET AND I CAN GO FIND THAT AND ADD THAT BACK TO THIS YEAR'S HOME BASE THAT, THAT SHOWS YOU HOW MUCH WE'RE BRINGING IN IN
TERMS OF REVENUE AND THEN HOW MUCH OF THAT IS BEING USED FOR OPERATIONS AND HOW MUCH OF THAT CAN GO EITHER EITHER TO HELP US PAY OFF DEBT OR TOWARDS CAPITAL PROJECTS? RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING IT, ANY OF THAT EXCESS TOWARDS CAPITAL PROJECTS NOT TO PAY OFF DEBT
EARLY. 
          SO I CAN, I CAN BRING THAT UP IN TERMS OF WHICH CAN WE COVER MORE OF I THINK IT'S JUST A
MATTER OF PRIORITY REALLY. 
          I MEAN, IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY EITHER WAY,
IT'S JUST WHICH, WHICH DIRECTION DOES IT GO? BUT BUT IT HAS HELPED US MAINTAIN A BALANCED BUDGET. 
          AND SO IF YOU WERE TO DIVERT THAT MONEY THEN TOWARDS CAPITAL,
ALL CAPITAL, RIGHT? THAT'S $30 MILLION IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO CUT FROM
SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHICH IS, YOU ALL KNOW, IS SIGNIFICANT AND A REALLY HEAVY ASK. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE HAVING TO DETERMINE WHICH WHICH CHILD WILL EAT DURING ONE TIME OR
ANOTHER. 
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BUT NOT I SHOULDN'T SAY CHILD BECAUSE NOT OUR KIDS,
NOT FRISCO ISD. 
          I KNOW WE'RE RECORDING, BUT YOU'RE BASICALLY HAVING TO MAKE A DIFFICULT DECISION ON BOTH
ENDS. 
          YEAH. I MEAN, YES, YES. AND I WOULD SAY ON THE CAPITAL SIDE,
THE FACT THAT WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS IN TERMS OF APPROACHING OUR COMMUNITY FOR A BOND PROGRAM IF YOU'RE,
IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME, WOULD I PREFER TO ASK FOR A BOND PROGRAM OR PREFER TO CUT $30 MILLION OUT OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET? I WOULD PREFER TO ASK FOR A BOND PROGRAM. 
          THANK YOU. HAVE A QUESTION? YES. IS THERE I MEAN,
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THE THIS IS THE PLAN, RIGHT. BUT IS THERE A TARGET NUMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THIS BOND YET? THERE'S THERE'S NOT A TARGET NUMBER. SO SO YOU GUYS KNOW THE WAY THAT WE APPROACH BOND
PLANNING IS WE WILL. 
          SO HISTORICALLY, RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO EVERY DEPARTMENT,
STARTING WITH CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE. 
          BUT THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, FINE ARTS, ATHLETICS,
ANYBODY WHO'S WHO'S BUYING AND USING EQUIPMENT AND THAT TECHNOLOGY. 
          RIGHT. AND WE'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE BUILDING A 5 YEAR BOND PROGRAM,
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO NEED IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN OUR PROGRAMS OVER THE NEXT 5 YEARS? NOW, HISTORICALLY, IT'S BEEN KIND OF IT'S BEEN A 2 PART QUESTION. 
          WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO NEED TO MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT PROGRAMS OVER THAT TIME PERIOD? AND THEN IS THERE ANYTHING ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER ASKING THE COMMUNITY TO
INVEST IN? AND WE WOULD BRING ALL OF THOSE TO THE BOND COMMITTEE TO VET. 
          SO WE WOULD SAY, HERE ARE ALL THE OPTIONS LIKE HERE,
HERE ARE ALL THE MAINTENANCE NEEDS, HERE ARE ALL THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT NEEDS, THE TECHNOLOGY REPLACEMENT NEEDS. AND THEN HERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE THAT OTHER
DISTRICTS HAVE THAT MAYBE OUR COMMUNITY WANTS TO. 
          AND WE WOULD LET THE BOND COMMITTEE COMMITTEE VET THAT,
AND WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY GET A COST OF THE TOTAL BOND PACKAGE UNTIL THAT COMMITTEE VETTED ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS AND PUT TOGETHER. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE WANT IN THAT PACKAGE. NOW THEY WOULD HAVE WHAT THE COST OF EACH OF THOSE
THINGS WERE, BUT THEN WE'D ADD IT ALL UP IN THE END. I THINK THE DIFFERENCE THIS TIME AROUND IS THERE
MAY NOT BE ANY OF THOSE. 
          WHAT ARE SOME COOL THINGS THAT OTHER DISTRICTS HAVE,
RIGHT. 
          THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK THE COMMUNITY FOR? NOW I'LL SAY ON THAT TOO, LIKE THERE WON'T BE A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER IN HERE,
FOR EXAMPLE, BUT OUR PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, I'M EXTREMELY PROUD OF,
AND I AM VERY GLAD WE BROUGHT IT TO THE VOTERS. 
          I WANT TO MAKE SURE I THINK IT'S A REALLY KEY POINT THAT A BOND IS NOT A BAD WORD,
RIGHT? THIS IS HOW PUBLIC ENTITIES FUNCTION. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TO SAVE MONEY ANNUALLY,
RIGHT? THAT MONEY, IF WE WERE SAVING MONEY, THAT SHOULD BE GOING TO TO PAY TEACHERS,
RIGHT? IT SHOULD BE GOING TO SALARIES. AND THIS IS OUR MECHANISM TO DO THINGS LIKE THIS. 
          AND A COMMUNITY LIKE FRISCO, WHO 30 YEARS AGO,
IT WAS ALL CORNFIELDS. 
          A COMMUNITY LIKE THIS DOES NOT EXIST WITHOUT BONDING AUTHORITY,
RIGHT? WHETHER IT'S THE CITY DOING ROADS AND FIRE STATIONS AND PUBLIC WORKS BUILDINGS,
OR IT'S THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BUILDING ENOUGH FACILITIES FOR FOR STUDENTS TO LIVE OR TO NOT TO LIVE, TO STUDENTS WHO MOVE HERE TO GO TO SCHOOL. 
          SO I DO THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT. AND IN THE PAST,
THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THIS BUILDING, THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE HAVE NOT HAD TO PASS A BOND WITH THE
FOOTBALL STADIUM IN IT SINCE THE 70S, I GUESS, WHICH IS GOOD FOR US. BUT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE. 
          AND THIS BOND PROGRAM, WE WILL NOT BE TALKING ABOUT ANY PROJECTS LIKE THAT. 
          WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS I'M REFERRING TO IS A NEEDS BASED BOND PROGRAM THAT IS TO
KEEP UP WITH THE FACILITIES THAT WE'VE ALREADY INVESTED SO MUCH MONEY IN. AND I WANT TO ADD ONE THING TO THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROGRAM,
RIGHT? I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE 2024 BOND TOTAL PACKAGE WITH ALL 3 PROPOSITIONS WAS JUST OVER $1
BILLION. 
          AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, RIGHT? THE COST OF MAINTAINING FACILITIES HAS GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE 2018 WHEN WE LAST
PASSED A BOND PROGRAM. 
          AND YOU, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO,
TO BE UP FRONT AND TALK ABOUT WITH WITH OUR BOND COMMITTEE, WITH YOU ALL, WITH THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE IS JUST IS THE SHEER COST OF,
YOU KNOW, REPLACING FLOORS AND 
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FIXING CONCRETE AND DOING THAT KIND OF THING. 
          YOU CAN LOOK AROUND AT ANY DISTRICT IN THE DFW AREA THAT HAS PASSED A BOND IN THE LAST FEW
YEARS. 
          IT'S NOT ABNORMAL TO SEE EVEN BASIC FACILITY PACKAGES THAT ARE OVER $1 BILLION. 
          AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR HAVING $1 BILLION BOND. 
          RIGHT. BUT I THINK WHEN YOU'RE IT'S SOMETIMES THAT TOTAL DOLLAR PERSPECTIVE IS SO HARD
WHEN YOU'RE JUST THINKING OF IT FROM YOUR PERSONAL LENS. 
          I MEAN, OUR, OUR ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET IS CLOSE TO $1 BILLION,
RIGHT? SO I JUST, I WANT TO, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WHILE THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A TARGET IN
MIND WE HAVE ALWAYS, WHEN WE BUILD BOND PACKAGES. WE HAVE YOU KNOW,
SORT PRICING FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES AND THAT KIND OF THING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE ACTUAL COST OF THOSE PROJECTS IS AND WHAT THE POTENTIAL ESCALATION
WILL BE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO ALL THE PROJECTS IN YEAR ONE,
RIGHT? SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD IN AN INFLATION FACTOR FOR THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO
HAPPEN IN YEAR FIVE. 
          AND SO WE JUST, WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR WITH,
WITH ALL INVOLVED ON WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION THOUGH. 
          WHEN I KNOW EARLIER THIS YEAR, YOU ALSO WERE ABLE TO BRING DOWN OR CONSOLIDATE THE,
THE DEBT PAYMENT, RIGHT. AND SO YOU BROUGHT THAT DOWN. HOW DOES THIS BOND IMPACT,
LET'S SAY IT PASSES. 
          HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THAT PARTICULAR PAYMENT? YEAH. GREAT QUESTION. THAT WILL DEPEND HEAVILY ON WHAT THE TOTAL PACKAGE LOOKS LIKE. 
          RIGHT. SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE WILL SPEND THE FALL TALKING WITH THE BOND COMMITTEE ABOUT
THESE. 
          THESE ARE ALL THE NEEDS, RIGHT? THESE, THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT OUR BUILDINGS NEED. 
          WE'LL PUT TOGETHER THE TOTAL COST. AND THEN I WILL WORK WITH OUR DISTRICT'S FINANCIAL
ADVISOR TO PROJECT OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF THE TAX RATE AND HOW MUCH CAPACITY WE HAVE WITHIN THE CURRENT 27 CENT TAX RATE. 
          SO, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL PRESENT THAT TO THE BOND COMMITTEE TOO. 
          SO WE WOULDN'T THE BOND COMMITTEE WON'T CONCLUDE UNTIL THEY HAVE A FULL PICTURE OF. 
          THESE ARE ALL THE PROJECTS. THIS IS THE TIMING AND SCOPE OF IT. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT IT DOES TO OUR TAX RATE AND THE TAX BILL ESSENTIALLY. 
          BUT WE WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL THE FULL PACKAGE. YOU'LL PRESENT THAT OUT ALSO. 
          OH ABSOLUTELY. YES, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. YES. 
          THANK YOU. I HAVE 3 QUESTIONS. ONE IS APART FROM THE COMMUNITY,
I HEARD SOME OF THE FEEDBACK IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A FULL RANGE OF COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVES. 
          AND OUR COMMITTEE, IS THERE A A NEW APPROACH ON HOW TO ACHIEVE IT? YES, ABSOLUTELY. SO I DIDN'T I DIDN'T COME WITH LIKE THE FULL PLAN FOR YOU GUYS TONIGHT ON
HOW WE WILL DEVELOP THAT BOND COMMITTEE. 
          BUT A COUPLE OF LESSONS LEARNED. I THINK THAT,
THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT IN PAST BONDS PRE 2024 THAT COMMITTEE WAS THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE APPOINTED OR SOUGHT OUT ESSENTIALLY TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE JUST BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THE DISTRICT AND THEIR,
AND THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          IN 2024, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET A WIDER RANGE OF PEOPLE ACCESS TO BE
ON THAT COMMITTEE. AND SO WE BUILT IT BASED ON PEOPLE SIGNING UP ESSENTIALLY LIKE PUTTING IN AN
APPLICATION FOR IT. 
          AND SO WE WEREN'T NECESSARILY GOING OUT AND APPOINTING PEOPLE OR REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE
AND SAYING, HEY, YOU, YOU HAVE A HISTORY HERE OR A PERSPECTIVE THAT WE WANT INCLUDED. 
          PLEASE BE ON THE BOND COMMITTEE. WHILE THERE ARE SOME GOOD THINGS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT
THAT A BROADER GROUP OF PEOPLE HAS ACCESS TO BE ON IT, THERE WERE SOME MISSES IN TERMS OF HAVING SEEKING OUT PEOPLE THAT HAVE BROAD
NETWORKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE REALLY PLUGGED IN AND THAT CAN USE THOSE NETWORKS TO VET IDEAS AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN, AND WE, WE WILL ALL TALK ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE PUT OUT
ANY, ANYTHING. BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IS A COMBINATION OF APPOINTMENTS FROM BOARD
MEMBERS OF US SEEKING OUT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE FINISHED THESE FOCUS GROUPS THAT WE'RE HOSTING RIGHT NOW WITH AN
INVITATION. 
          IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE ON A FUTURE BOND COMMITTEE,
PLEASE LET US KNOW AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOUR NAME GOES ON A LIST SOMEWHERE. 
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SO I THINK A COMBINATION OF MAKING SURE THE BROADER COMMUNITY HAS ACCESS TO APPLY IF
THEY'RE INTERESTED, BUT ALSO APPOINTMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS, I THINK WILL BE REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          THANK YOU. AND I'M SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE STARTED OUT WITH SAYING THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
STARTING THIS CONVERSATION EARLY. 
          I THINK THE TIMELINE THAT YOU'VE SHOWN SHOWS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND
LEARN FROM PREVIOUS BONDS. 
          MY SECOND QUESTION IS YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED IS FFE. 
          YES. CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT CONCEPT. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT FURNITURE SPECIFICALLY? I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M PREPARED TO GO INTO ANY KIND OF DETAIL ABOUT FURNITURE. 
          I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF SCOTT, YOU HAVE ANY ANYTHING. 
          I THINK IT'S IT WOULD REALLY BE MORE OF LIKE A LOT OF THOSE DETAILS THAT ARE TALKED ABOUT
ARE GOING TO BE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE BOND COMMITTEE LOOKING AT WHAT, WHAT WHAT CAMPUSES HAVE FURNITURE THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED. 
          RIGHT. AND I'M NOT TALKING NECESSARILY ABOUT JUST CLASSROOM FURNITURE. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CAFETERIA TABLES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHOIR RISERS. 
          WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ANYTHING THAT YOU SIT OR STAND ON OR PUT,
YOU KNOW, PEN AND PAPER ON, YOU KNOW. I THINK THE KEEPING IT HIGH LEVEL,
I'M SURE THEY WILL COME BACK WITH THE SPECIFIC DETAILS. 
          I KNOW EVERYBODY'S ANXIOUS TO SEE WHICH SCHOOL CAMPUS IS GOING TO GET WHICH EQUIPMENT,
BUT PROBABLY FOR TODAY IF WE COULD KEEP IT 80,000 FEET. 
          SURE. MAYBE 70. OKAY. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          YES. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE TIMELINE AS MENTIONED. 
          HAVE YOU DONE THE COMMUNITY SURVEY NUMBER 2 IN DECEMBER? HAVE YOU DONE SURVEYS IN DECEMBER BEFORE. AND WHAT WAS THE. 
          OUTCOME. WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE. SO THESE COMMUNITY SURVEYS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN
THIS, THAN THE SURVEY THAT YOU MIGHT BE THINKING ABOUT FOR THAT WE PUT OUT EVERY SPRING TO
PARENTS AND STAFF. 
          THESE ARE THESE ARE TARGETED STATISTICAL SAMPLES FROM OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT SPECIFIC THINGS THAT MIGHT GO ON THE BALLOT. EVERY TIME WE DO A BOND PROGRAM,
WE DO SURVEY THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME AROUND WE DID 2 SURVEYS,
IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY. 
          I CANNOT REMEMBER IF WE DID ONE BEFORE AND ONE AFTER OR IF WE DID 2 AFTER. 
          IT'S, IT'S KIND OF ALL THAT WAS A WHILE AGO AND I'VE SLEPT SINCE THEN,
BUT THESE ARE SO IT TAKES, INTERESTINGLY, IT TAKES 300 RESPONDENTS TO CREATE A STATISTICAL SAMPLE. 
          AND IT'S BASED ON PEOPLE ARE TARGETED FOR THE SURVEY BASED ON THEIR DEMOGRAPHICS SO THAT
THEY MATCH THE. 
          SO THE RESPONDENTS MATCH THE DEMOGRAPHICS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND IT'S REALLY JUST TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF COMMUNITY PERCEPTION AND SENTIMENT TOWARDS,
YOU KNOW IF THE COMMITTEE IS KIND OF BOND COMMITTEE IS WAVERING BETWEEN 2 DIFFERENT OPTIONS, WE CAN INCLUDE SOME OF THAT IN THE,
IN THE SECOND IN THE DECEMBER SURVEY. 
          SO IT DOESN'T TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE. AND THE WAY THAT THESE SURVEY COMPANIES WORK IS
THEY'LL DECIDE WHAT DEMOGRAPHICS THEY NEED TO SURVEY, AND THEY WILL KEEP WORKING AT IT UNTIL THEY GET THE NUMBER OF RESPONSES FROM THE RIGHT
DEMOGRAPHICS OF PEOPLE, SO THAT THEY GET A STATISTICAL SAMPLE OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE LIKE WE PUT OUT IN THE SPRING,
WHERE WE, WHERE WE WANT EVERYONE TO, TO ANSWER ALL THE THINGS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THE TIME OF YEAR AND
EVERYBODY'S BUSY AND CLOSE UP THEIR LAPTOPS. 
          OH, YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. FOR DECEMBER. AND MY LAST QUESTION IS,
WILL BOARD MEMBERS BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE BOND COMMITTEE MEETINGS? YES. THANK YOU. STEPHANIE. HI. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          THEY'RE REALLY NOT QUESTIONS. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE MORE JUST COMMENTS. 
          IT IS NOT A SECRET THAT I STRUGGLED MIGHTILY WITH THE 2024 BOND AND I THINK THAT WE'RE IN
A DIFFERENT PLACE AS A DISTRICT TODAY. AND I THINK WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF WHERE WE'RE AT AS A DISTRICT,
AS WE ARE PLANNING FOR THIS BOND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T, I THINK, REPEAT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE SAW IN 2024. 
          BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT NOW. AND I THINK I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE
CAMPUSES, 
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BUT WE HAVE CAMPUSES UNDER CAPACITY. AND I THINK IT IS,
IS A TOUGH MESSAGE WHEN WE HAVE CAMPUSES UNDER CAPACITY. 
          AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO FIX UP OTHER CAMPUSES,
I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GO DO THIS, BUT IT'S STILL A CHALLENGE FOR ME TO ASK FOR MONEY FOR SOME CAMPUSES WHILE WE'RE KEEPING
EVERYTHING OPEN FOR NOW. 
          AND I DON'T WANT TO CLOSE CAMPUSES, NO ONE WANTS TO CLOSE THEM. 
          AND I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT THE SAME ISSUE, BUT THEY'RE VERY RELATED,
I THINK. 
          WHEN WE THINK ABOUT IT. SO THAT IS THAT IS MY OPINION,
I STRUGGLE WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN SOME OF THE CAMPUSES THAT ARE UNDER CAPACITY ARE SOME OF OUR OLDER CAMPUSES. SO I THINK WE'VE REALLY GOT TO THINK THAT THROUGH. 
          AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AND NOT JUST SETTLE THAT TODAY. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THINKING ABOUT IT AND KEEP TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE HOW
WE ADDRESS THAT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO COME UP. ALSO,
WE HAVE ASSETS AS A DISTRICT THAT ARE NOT BEING UTILIZED. 
          WE HAVE CAMPUSES THAT WE WERE GOING TO BUILD THAT WERE NOW NOT BUILDING. 
          WE OWN THAT LAND. I ALSO THINK THAT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS,
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF RETAINING SOME ASSETS,
HOWEVER, AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN IF WE SOLD EVERY ASSET WE HAD, THAT WOULD NOT SOLVE THE DELTA HERE, I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          HOWEVER, I THINK IT'S ALSO. I THINK THESE THINGS ARE ALSO A SIGNAL TO THE COMMUNITY
REGARDING HOW WE'RE MANAGING OUR DISTRICT, INCLUDING OUR ASSETS. SO I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP LOOKING AT THAT AND
DETERMINING A PLAN. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT. THE OTHER THING WHICH HAS BEEN REFERENCED
EARLIER, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO REITERATE, IS THE ITEMIZED COSTS. 
          I THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE IF WE GO OUT FOR THE SPAWN PROGRAM,
IT'S VERY CLEAR WHICH CAMPUSES ARE GOING TO TO GET, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, WHICH UPGRADES AND OR MATERIALS AND OR WHATEVER IT IS,
HVAC, WHATEVER, AND EXACTLY WHAT THAT'S GOING TO COST. 
          BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A CONCERN IN 2024. 
          IT WAS JUST THIS BIG NUMBER AND NO ONE REALLY KNEW. 
          AND WE PUT SIGNS OUT ON CAMPUSES SAYING, YOU KNOW,
THIS CAMPUS WILL GET THIS, THIS AND THIS, BUT NO ONE KNEW HOW MUCH IT WAS GOING TO COST AND IT DIDN'T FEEL TRANSPARENT TO THE
MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT CHOSE TO NOT SUPPORT THAT BOND. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. I ALSO THINK KIND OF ALONG THOSE LINES,
WE AND THIS IS A TOUGH ONE FOR ME TO SAY, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY IT ANYWAYS BECAUSE I'D RATHER SAY IT. NOW WE HAVE VENDORS THAT WE'VE
WORKED WITH ON THESE MAINTENANCE PROJECTS FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER, DO WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS THAT
MIGHT NOT BE AS EXPENSIVE? I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SACRIFICE QUALITY,
STUDENT SAFETY, ANY OF THOSE THINGS. 
          BUT WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WE DID THAT? MAYBE WE DO DO THAT,
IN WHICH CASE WE SHOULD COMMUNICATE THAT. 
          BUT ARE WE REALLY GETTING THAT? AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE CERTAIN VENDORS THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH AND THAT'S GREAT,
BUT I JUST THINK WE'RE AT A PLACE WHERE THERE, THERE CAN'T BE ANY SACRED COWS AND WE HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT THESE THINGS. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS STILL
SOME FALLOUT FROM THE 2024 BOND IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          I THINK IT IS STILL THERE. I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT AS WE DESIGN A
PROGRAM AND DESIGN THE COMMUNICATIONS AROUND THE PROGRAM. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, WHICH I KIND OF ALLUDED TO EARLIER,
THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT ELECTORATE FROM THE LAST TIME WE HAVE PASSED EITHER A TREE OR A BOND. SO WE HAVE FEWER PARENTS, WE HAVE FEWER STUDENTS. 
          SO THAT MEANS WE HAVE FEWER PARENTS. WE ALSO HAVE FEWER TEACHERS WHO LIVE WITHIN STAFF
MEMBERS WHO LIVE WITHIN OUR DISTRICT. 
          THOSE ARE THE VOTERS THAT ARE MORE LIKELY TO SUPPORT A BOND BECAUSE THEY WANT THEIR KIDS
TO BE IN A BRAND NEW SCHOOL. 
          THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN PORTABLES, WHATEVER THAT IS. 
          THOSE WERE THE ISSUES THE LAST TIME WE PASSED A BOND IS BUILDING NEW CAMPUSES BECAUSE OUR
ENROLLMENT WAS GROWING. 
          THAT, I THINK, IS AN EASIER MESSAGE TO COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMUNITY THAN FIXING UP ASSETS
WHEN YOU'RE NOT AS INVOLVED WITH THE SCHOOLS. I DO AGREE WITH WHAT DOCTOR FOUCHE SAID,
THAT SOME OF OUR FACILITIES ARE NOT LOOKING AS GOOD AS WHAT IS UP TO OUR STANDARD, AND I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO DO CARE ABOUT THAT,
WHETHER OR NOT THEY STILL HAVE STUDENTS ATTENDING FRISCO ISD. 
          BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT THAT ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 
          AND I THINK WE HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT AS WE DESIGN THIS,
WHO IS OUR ELECTORATE NOW? BECAUSE IT IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM EVEN 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO. 
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IT'S JUST DIFFERENT. OUR COMMUNITY IS CHANGING,
OUR ENROLLMENT IS DROPPING AND, BUT YET OUR POPULATION IS GROWING. 
          SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THESE FACTORS THAT I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO
SERIOUSLY CONSIDER. 
          AND I REALIZE THAT SOME VERY TOUGH DECISIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MADE ABOUT ALL OF
THESE THINGS. 
          I KNOW THAT AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS, IT'S GIVING ME SOME HEARTBURN,
AND I DON'T REALLY STAY UP AT NIGHT BECAUSE I CAN'T SLEEP. 
          BUT THIS IS KIND OF KEEPING ME UP AT NIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT THING FOR
OUR DISTRICT. 
          I THINK WE ALL WANT TO SEE OUR FACILITIES IN GOOD SHAPE,
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PIECES TO THIS. 
          AND I JUST THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP ALL THIS IN MIND. 
          IT'S NOT EASY. AND IT'S THERE'S A LOT OF MACRO FACTORS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF MICRO FACTORS. BUT YOU KNOW,
WE HAD NOT A GOOD SITUATION IN 2024. WE DON'T WANT TO REPEAT THAT OBVIOUSLY. 
          AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR CAMPUSES GET WHAT WE NEED. BUT THE HOW IS GOING TO BE VERY,
VERY IMPORTANT. 
          SO I'M GLAD WE'RE STARTING. NOW TO ECHO RENEE'S POINT I DON'T RECALL US STARTING THIS
EARLY LAST TIME, BUT IT WAS ALSO IN NOVEMBER ELECTION. SO MAYBE THAT MAYBE WE DID,
I DON'T KNOW, BUT I AM GLAD WE'RE STARTING NOW. 
          I AM GLAD WE'RE WELCOMING MORE VOICES INTO THIS PROCESS. 
          WHO MIGHT NOT BE INCLINED TO SUPPORT A BOND OR WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE SUPPORTED THE 2024 BOND. 
          I HOPE WE REALLY LISTEN, I REALLY DO. AND SO WHATEVER I CAN DO TO HELP THAT I AM WILLING
TO DO, BECAUSE IF WE DO GO OUT FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, I WANT IT TO BE A GOOD THING. 
          I JUST THESE CONCERNS ARE WEIGHING ON ME PERSONALLY HEAVILY AND HAVE BEEN SINCE WE STARTED
TALKING ABOUT THIS LAST SPRING. 
          WOULD IT HELP IF WE GOT YOU SOME INFORMATION ON ALL THE DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS WE'VE USED? ONE THING I DON'T WANT THE COMMUNITY TO THINK IS THAT WE LIKE. 
          I CAN THINK OF THE NATATORIUM, PANTHER CREEK,
MONETTE, WORTHAM WERE ALL BUILT ABOUT THE SAME TIME. DIFFERENT ARCHITECTS, DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS. 
          LIKE, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE LEAVING THINKING THAT WE ONLY WORK WITH 1 OR 2 ARCHITECTS OR 1
OR 2 CONTRACTORS. 
          WE CAN GET YOU ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION ABOUT OUR BID PROCESSES,
AND A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT WE THAT WE'VE UTILIZED IN THE PAST. 
          IF THAT HELPS, WE DEFINITELY CAN. AND I WANT TO JUST ADD TO THAT REALLY QUICKLY FOR THE
BENEFIT OF THE BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY THAT'S LISTENING. 
          ANY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT GOES OUT TO BID. SO WE HAVE A KIND OF,
THERE'S 2 PIECES TO IT. 
          WE SELECT AN ARCHITECT, WHICH WE HAVE A POOL ARCHITECTS,
OUR PROFESSIONAL TRADES THAT ARE NOT REQUIRED UNDER TEXAS LAW TO BE BID. 
          YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T BID OUT FOR THAT TYPE OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICE BECAUSE IT'S SO
NUANCED. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE A POOL OF ARCHITECTS THAT HAVE SUBMITTED A QUALIFICATION YOU KNOW,
INFORMATION AND WE HAVE VETTED THAT POOL. AND SO WE HAVE A GROUP OF DIFFERENT ARCHITECT FIRMS THAT WE USE. 
          AND LIKE TODD SAID, WE, WE MAKE AN EFFORT NOT TO USE THE SAME ARCHITECT FIRM FOR EVERY
MAJOR PROJECT. 
          BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OR YOU KNOW,
WE'RE NOT BUILDING NEW BUILDINGS, BUT YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE CONSTRUCTION THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO LIKE A MAJOR RENOVATION. 
          EVERY SINGLE PROJECT IS BID OUT. EVEN IF WE ARE JUST,
YOU KNOW, REPLACING OLD FURNITURE OUR PROCUREMENT GUIDELINES SAY YOU, YOU, IF WE EITHER BID IT OUT OR WE'VE DONE A BID AND WE
HAVE A POOL AND YOU GET MULTIPLE QUOTES FOR THE PACKAGES THAT YOU WANT. SO WE DO VET EVERY MAJOR PURCHASE OR CONSTRUCTION
PROJECT THROUGH, THROUGH A PROCESS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING BEST VALUE FOR THE DISTRICT. 
          SO I WANTED, I WANT THAT TO BE CLEAR FOR EVERYBODY. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT JUST ALL OF YOUR POINTS ARE HEARD. 
          ABSOLUTELY. I WANT THE BOARD TO ALSO KNOW THAT AS PART OF LONG RANGE PLANNING,
WE'RE WE'RE AT THE POINT IN OUR LIFE AS A DISTRICT WHERE I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY BUILD OUT A ROBUST LONG RANGE FACILITY PLAN. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES THE LONG TERM PLAN FOR WHAT TO DO WITH SOME OF THOSE ASSETS THAT WE
HAVE. 
          RIGHT. SO SELLING EVERY PIECE OF LAND WE OWN MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT ANSWER,
BUT WE ARE WE ARE WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW LONG TERM PLANS FOR BEST USE OF ALL OF THE ASSETS THAT WE DO OWN. 
          SO IF YOU KIND OF THINK OF IT FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE,
YOU KNOW, LIKE HIGHEST AND BEST USE, WHAT'S THE ABSOLUTE BEST VALUE THAT THE DISTRICT CAN 
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GET FROM, YOU KNOW, THAT PIECE OF LAND THAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BUILD A SCHOOL ON
IT? IN SOME CASES, IT MAY BE SELLING IT. IN OTHER CASES IT MAY BE SOMETHING ELSE. 
          AND SO I IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE START TO BUILD OUT THAT LONG RANGE PLAN. 
          SO FOR FOR THE BOARD'S SAKE AND ALSO JUST FOR CLARITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY,
ONE OF THE POINTS I WAS GOING TO BRING UP AND. 
          GREAT QUESTION, STEPHANIE AND KIMBERLY, IS THAT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE FINANCING OF THE
SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND I KNOW I SAID KEEP IT 70 OR 80,000FT, BUT WE MAY HAVE TO BRING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT,
IS JUST RECOGNIZING THIS IS HOW WE FINANCE SCHOOL FUNDING. 
          EVEN THOUGH WE'RE THE SIZE OF A SOMEWHAT CORPORATION,
PROBABLY MID TO SMALL CORPORATION, WE DON'T GET TO SELL STOCK. 
          WE DON'T GET INVESTORS. WE HAVE INVESTORS THROUGH OUR PARENTS AND OUR KIDS,
BUT THEY DON'T BUY STOCK IN FRISCO. 
          I GUESS IT'S SOMEONE THAT THEY DO BECAUSE THEY MOVE HERE,
BUT IT'S NOT THE TRADITIONAL WAY. 
          LIKE YOU CAN GO OUT AND BUY STOCK IN FRISCO ISD. 
          SO WE'RE REQUIRED TO BUY BONDS AND THE SALES TAX THAT WE GET A PROPERTY TAX ONLY GO SO
FAR. 
          SO IT'S JUST A WAY THAT WE HAVE TO FINANCE. ANOTHER WAY I LOOK AT IT IS THAT WHEN I THINK
ABOUT WHAT THE BOND ALLOWS US TO DO, IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE THAT QUALITY OF EDUCATION THAT PEOPLE HAVE GROWN TO EXPECT HERE AT
FRISCO. 
          THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT YOU CAN'T EVEN PUT A NUMBER. 
          THE NUMBER. WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE NATIONAL MERIT SCHOLARS,
OUR NATIONAL HONOR SOCIETY, NOT EVEN COUNTING THE ATHLETIC PROGRAMS, WHICH DRIVES MORE PEOPLE HERE AND MAKE THEM WANT TO BE A PART. 
          AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT THAT KIDS ARE IN,
YOU WANT TO PUT THEM IN A LEARNING ENVIRONMENT. 
          AND I KNOW IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT THE BELLS AND WHISTLES,
HOW PRETTY IT LOOKS, BUT IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE IT'S EITHER TOO HOT OR TOO COLD, THE HOLES IN THE FLOOR,
THE TOILETS DOESN'T WORK. 
          IT TAKES AWAY FROM YOUR MENTALITY AND WHAT YOU DO AND HOW YOU FOCUS IN CLASS. 
          I KNOW THERE ARE A GAZILLION KIDS WHO WOULD LOVE TO BE IN FRISCO ISD. 
          THEY WILL GO TO SCHOOL NEXT MONTH, AND THEY DON'T KNOW IF THE HEAT OR THE AIR IS GOING TO
WORK OR COME WINTER, IT'S GOING TO BE HOT OR COLD. AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THEY DEAL WITH. 
          FOR THE MOST PART. WE DON'T HAVE THAT. THE OTHER THING I KIND OF THE ANALOGY I USE IS IF
YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT A HOUSE, YOU LIVE IN A HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S TOO BIG OR TOO SMALL FOR YOU,
AT SOME POINT, YOU DON'T STOP INVESTING IN THAT HOUSE OR STOP FIXING THAT HOUSE BECAUSE YOU SAID, WELL, WE'RE MOVING IN A YEAR, SO I'M NOT GOING TO REPAIR THE PLUMBING OR THE
KIDS ARE GONE. 
          SO WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SELL THE HOUSE. 
          YOU HAVE TO JUST MAINTAIN THAT UPKEEP AND YOU'LL PUT YOURSELF IN A SITUATION AT SOME POINT
IN TIME WHERE YOU CAN'T CATCH UP. 
          IF YOU KEEP DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, YOU KEEP DEFERRING. 
          SAY, WE'LL WAIT, WE'LL WAIT, WE'LL WAIT. WELL,
THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE FAIR TO THE SCHOOL BOARD OR 2035 OR 2050 WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO SIT THERE AND LOOK AT, WOW, WHY DID THEY DO THIS? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BUILDINGS? I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY WERE JUST SO IRRESPONSIBLE THAT THESE
WERE JUST BASIC ITEMS THAT THEY DID NOT DO. 
          AND JUST I THINK IT'S JUST INCUMBENT UPON US. 
          I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION TO SOME EXTENT,
BUT IT'S A RESPONSIBLE THING THAT WE HAVE TO DO. 
          WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUR KIDS IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN THRIVE. 
          WE BELIEVE IN THEM. WE SHOW THEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO
ENCOURAGE YOU AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN A SAFE, NURTURING ENVIRONMENT. AND PART OF THAT IS JUST UPKEEP. 
          AGAIN, I GO BACK TO JUST THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THE BOND PROCESS. 
          IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD ENOUGH SALES TAX OR PROPERTY TAX OR THE STATE GAVE US ANYTHING
THAT WE WANTED, BUT THAT'S JUST NOT HOW IT WORKS. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE BOND COMES IN. 
          AND THE OTHER GREAT THING ABOUT IT, AND I THINK I BRING IT UP EVERY YEAR,
OUR RATE WILL BE BASED UPON WHERE WE ARE ON OUR BOND LEVEL BECAUSE WE ARE SO GREAT FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, IT LOWERS OUR INTEREST RATES,
WHICH HELPS A WHOLE LOT COMPARED TO SOME OTHER DISTRICTS WHO ARE PROBABLY WOULD LOVE TO AGAIN, TO HAVE OUR OUR RATING. SO ALL THAT TIES IN TOGETHER. 
          AND I THINK IT'S JUST THE MANAGEMENT AND LEADERSHIP OF WHAT WE HAVE AND THAT. 
          BUT GREAT QUESTIONS. I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I KNOW AND I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS. STEPHANIE THAT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS
AND EVEN ABOUT THE THE ENROLLMENT. 
          BUT HOWEVER, I JUST STILL GO BACK TO THE POINT AND I ALWAYS ASK THIS WOULD YOU WANT TO
SWAP YOUR KID TO BE IN A SCHOOL THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY SAYS IS NOT GETTING THE ATTENTION THAT ANOTHER SCHOOL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
TOWN IS GETTING, AND WE WANT TO TREAT EVERYBODY FAIR AND GIVE THEM EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE SCHOOL AND THE OTHER SCHOOL,
WHICH IS WHAT WILL COME TO MIND. 
          HOW DO YOU SEPARATE ONE FROM THE OTHER, DEALING WITH A LIMITED NUMBER OF FUNDS,
OR ARE TELLING PEOPLE, WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO INVEST IN YOUR KID OR YOUR SCHOOL BECAUSE MAYBE 10 YEARS FROM NOW
THAT SCHOOL MIGHT CLOSE, OR WE MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH TEACHERS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. 
          SO JUST SOMETHING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BUT SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE 3 THINGS. MY FIRST IS THANK YOU,
KIMBERLY AND TEAM. 
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I KNOW THIS WAS A TEAM EFFORT FOR FIRST OF ALL,
ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT DID AND DID NOT HAPPEN IN 2024. 
          AND I REALLY HOPE AS A BOARD, WE CAN GET PAST THAT BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE ADDRESSED IT. 
          YOU'VE YOU'VE HEARD YOU'VE HEARD US AFTER, BEFORE,
DURING AND WE'RE HAVE BEEN PROACTIVE IN MAKING SURE THAT YOU ARE LISTENING TO STAKEHOLDERS THAT DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH FRISCO ISD AND HOW WE DO THINGS. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THIS IS A YOUNG BOARD. 
          I KNOW EVERYONE HERE IS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN THEIR FIELDS,
BUT AS A BOARD, WE'RE YOUNG. 
          AND SO I WOULD WANT FOR US AS A BOARD TO ASK THE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS OF THINGS THAT HAVE
TAKEN PLACE BEFORE EACH OF US INDIVIDUALLY ARRIVED AND NOT MAKE ASSUMPTIONS BECAUSE FOR SURE,
IN OUR MEETING MINUTES FOR YEARS PAST, WHEN THOSE AND THIS IS JUST IN RELATION TO THE COMMENT THAT STEPHANIE MADE FOR THE
CONTRACTORS, THE CONTRACT PROCESS, THE CONTRACTOR PROCESS IS RIGOROUS. 
          AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A PART OF MANY OF THE OPENINGS THAT HAVE
OCCURRED AND SAT ON THIS BOARD WHEN THERE WERE BIDDING WARS, WHERE THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE VYING FOR IT AND US OPENING UP CAMPUSES AND OTHER
OPPORTUNITIES AND NOT, AND ME LOOKING AT DIFFERENT FACES EVERY TIME THEY CAME TO SIT AT THE TABLE WITH US. 
          AND SO IF THERE IS A WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE TO US TO ASSIST US WITH
THAT, BECAUSE WE WANT WE WANT TO LEARN, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS YOU ALL DID PRIOR TO US
GETTING HERE. 
          THAT'S MY SECOND THING. AND THEN THE THIRD IS I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT VOTING PRESIDENT
MADDOX. 
          I KNOW THAT YOU WANT US TO STAY BELOW 7000 8000FT. 
          BUT I AM NOT I AM NOT FOR SELLING OUR ASSETS IN ANY WAY BEFORE WE HAVE A SOLID PLAN. 
          JUST A FOLLOW UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. 
          OH. I'M SORRY. LET ME GET THE REST FIRST. NO. 
          GO AHEAD. YOU HADN'T SPOKEN? NO. MINE. THE I THINK I MENTIONED ON THE HOUR DURING A SMALL
GROUP MEETING ABOUT MAINLY ABOUT THE COMMITTEE. SO HOW TO FORM THE BOND COMMITTEE LIKE IS IN THE TASB RECENT ONE. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, I HEARD FROM THE GARLAND ISD FOLKS. 
          THEY HAD A TEAM OF 70 OR SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW I LIKE THE,
THE WAY I THINK THEY FORMED IT. 
          LIKE THAT'S THE THING I GAVE THE FEEDBACK, LIKE ALL THE,
EACH, EACH TRUSTEE CAN RECOMMEND 7. 
          SO WHICH IS 7 TIMES 7 IS 49 AND THEN REMAINING LIKE 21 MAYBE COMES FROM DR. 
          FOUCHE. SO LIKE THAT TOTAL COMES AROUND 70. SO,
SO THAT'S WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          SO. I GUESS LIKE TODD, I MEAN. SO I THINK THAT THAT WAY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY CAN BRING IN LIKE,
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS CAN BE LIKE A PARENT OR A STUDENT OR SOMEBODY FROM A TEACHING SIDE OR COULD BE FROM RESIDENTS FROM OTHER PARTS OF TOWN. 
          I KNOW BECAUSE WE ARE SHARING OUR DISTRICT WITH THE MCKINNEY,
PLANO AND THE LITTLE ELM, SO WE CAN BRING SOMEBODY FROM THERE TO BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS ARE FALLING THERE TOO. SO THAT'S WHAT MY SUGGESTION ABOUT THE BOND COMMITTEE. 
          THANK YOU. WHAT I'LL DO IS WHEN ONCE WE ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD AND KIND OF BUILD OUT A MORE
ROBUST PLANNING TIMELINE, RIGHT. I WILL I'LL WORK WITH KEITH TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST FORMAT TO
GIVE IT TO YOU GUYS IN, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, UPDATES IN HOME BASE OR WHETHER WE COME BACK TOGETHER TO HAVE
ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS, BUT WE'LL PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL FOR YOU GUYS ABOUT HOW THAT BOND COMMITTEE HOW TO FORM
THAT BOND COMMITTEE. 
          AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF VET THAT OUT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH SOLICITING PEOPLE. 
          AND THEN ALSO, SORRY JUST TO JEANETTE'S POINT ABOUT KIND OF TRAINING FOR THE BOARD ON PROCUREMENT, CONSTRUCTION, PROCUREMENT OR GENERAL PROCUREMENT. 
          WE CAN, WE CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT IF,
IF YOU GUYS WANT A WORKSHOP WHERE WE JUST GO THROUGH KIND OF THE, THE PURCHASING PROCESS OR CONSTRUCTION PROCESS,
WE COULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT FOR YOU. 
          OR WE COULD KIND OF WRITE IT ALL UP AND GIVE YOU SOME STUFF TO READ. 
          HOWEVER YOU GUYS WANT TO DO THAT, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO,
TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THAT TOO. 
          I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT EVERYBODY HAS SAID. 
          I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE REALLY ARE LISTENING AND HAVE BEEN DOING THINGS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER
TIMES. 
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AND I JUST THIS THE SECOND QUESTION I ASKED ABOUT THE DEBT PAYMENT. 
          SO IF WE BRING ON THIS NEW BOND, THAT MEANS THAT OUR PAYMENT WILL INCREASE. 
          CORRECT. SO I GUESS WE ALSO NEED A PLAN FOR THAT,
RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE THAT WILL CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT WHAT,
5 YEARS OR SO IS THAT. 
          SO I MEAN, IT'S USUALLY IT'S ACTUALLY 30 YEARS,
RIGHT? DEBT. OUR DEBT IS TYPICALLY 30 YEARS. SOME OF IT'S SHORTER. 
          NONE OF IT'S LONGER. IT'S 30 YEARS MAX. WHAT WE,
WHAT WE DO IS DEPENDING ON THE ASSETS THAT WE ARE EITHER BUYING OR CONSTRUCTING, WE WILL MATCH THE DEBT THAT WE SELL TO THE LIFE OF THAT ASSET. 
          SO IF WE'RE BUYING TECHNOLOGY, THEN ALL OF THE BONDS FOR THAT TECHNOLOGY PACKAGE WILL BE
PAID OFF WITHIN 5 YEARS BECAUSE THAT'S THE LIFE OF THAT TECHNOLOGY. 
          IF WE'RE BUYING SCHOOL BUSSES, ALL THE BONDS WILL BE PAID OFF WITHIN 15 YEARS FOR THOSE
SCHOOL BUSSES. 
          IF IT'S, IF IT'S RENOVATING A BUILDING, IT'S A 30 YEAR BOND BECAUSE THE BUILDING'S GOING
TO LAST LONGER THAN 30 YEARS. 
          SO YES, THAT IS PART OF THE LONG TERM PLAN. AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WILL GO OVER WITH
BOTH THE BOARD AND THE COMMITTEE AND PUT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THIS DO TO OUR DEBT PROFILE? IN TERMS OF PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS OVER TIME? AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT MEAN POTENTIALLY FOR THE TAX RATE? AND REMEMBER THE TAX RATE IS REALLY A FACTOR OF WHAT IS OUR TOTAL TAX BASE IN THE
DISTRICT. 
          COMPARED TO HOW MUCH DEBT DO WE NEED TO PAY. AND IT'S,
IT'S SIMPLE DIVISION TO DETERMINE WHAT YOUR TAX RATE HAS TO BE. 
          SO BASED ON OUR ANTICIPATED EITHER EITHER GROWTH OR STABILIZATION OF PROPERTY VALUES OVER
TIME, RIGHT? THAT WILL TELL US WHAT WE EXPECT TO HAPPEN TO THE TAX RATE BASED ON THOSE PAYMENTS. 
          OKAY. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. I WASN'T TRYING TO IMPLY THAT OUR PROCUREMENT
PROCESS IS NOT GOOD AND IS NOT WORKING. ALL I'M SAYING IS, IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING NUMBERS
OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT IT'S GOING TO COST X DOLLARS TO FIX THE HVAC AT SAID ELEMENTARY SCHOOL,
THAT WE SHOULD MAKE SURE ALWAYS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AND WE SHOULD COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE COMMUNITY IF WE FEEL GOOD
ABOUT OUR PROCESSES, WHEN WE PUT OUT AMOUNTS ON HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST FOR THINGS. 
          AND I THINK PART OF THAT IS WE KNOW THIS IS A GOOD PRICE BECAUSE WE DO A,
B AND C, SO I THINK IT'S JUST THAT CONSTANT, NOT JUST CHECK AND BALANCE ON OURSELVES. SO I DON'T I WASN'T ASKING FOR A WORKSHOP. 
          I MEAN, IF OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE IT, THAT'S FINE. I FEEL LIKE WE ADDRESS SOME OF OUR
PROCESS LAST SPRING WITH THE PRINT CENTER CONTRACT. 
          SO I AND MAYBE THE NEWER TRUSTEES WOULD LIKE THAT. 
          AND I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO COME IF WE WANT TO DO IT. BUT I'M NOT ASKING FOR THAT. 
          I'M JUST ASKING THAT WE BE MINDFUL AND THAT WE ALWAYS BE LOOKING AT THESE THINGS,
WHICH I THINK YOU'RE ALREADY DOING, BUT LET'S JUST COMMUNICATE THAT RIGHT TO THE COMMUNITY,
ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT NUMBERS OF HOW MUCH THINGS COST, RIGHT? I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO EXAMPLES FROM THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM,
BUT THERE WERE SOME NUMBERS THAT WENT OUT THERE THAT CAUSED PEOPLE TO GO A LITTLE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY CRAZY, BUT VERY IT GOT EMOTIONS VERY HIGH ON CERTAIN NUMBERS. 
          SO WHEN YOU EXPLAIN IT AND YOU EXPLAIN OUR PROCESS,
AND AGAIN, WE CAN'T COMMUNICATE EVERY SINGLE THING ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. 
          BUT I JUST THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE LOOKING AT THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE
CLEAR, BECAUSE THESE ARE VERY BIG NUMBERS AND TO EVEN TO ME. 
          I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD NOW FOR YEARS. THE NUMBERS STILL KIND OF BLOW MY MIND SOMETIMES,
RIGHT? AND SO, AND I LOOK AT THIS MORE THAN EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY EXCEPT FOR THE PEOPLE
SITTING UP HERE, RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE POINT IS,
ARE WE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE? IF WE ARE, WHICH I BELIEVE WE ARE, THEN LET'S MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THOSE THINGS. 
          THANK YOU. THE ONLY OTHER THING, KIM, KIMBERLY,
IF YOU COULD TOUCH ON THE ADVANTAGE OR STRATEGIC POINT OF GOING IN MAY AND NOT NOVEMBER IN CASE THAT COMES UP DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, PLEASE. 
          YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO ONE OF THE LESSONS LEARNED IN THE 2024 BOND WAS
THAT A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IS NOT THE BEST TIME TO HAVE LOCAL ISSUES ON THE BALLOT. RIGHT? THE,
A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS RIGHT THERE. 
          THERE WAS A LOT MORE CONTENTION JUST POLITICALLY,
AND THERE TYPICALLY IS IN A NOVEMBER ELECTION VERSUS A MAY ELECTION. 
          THE NUMBER OF VOTERS AT THE POLLS WAS SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER. 
          AND THAT'S NOT A THAT'S NOT A BAD THING. BUT I THINK LESSON LEARNED WAS THAT IF IT'S A
NOVEMBER ELECTION WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REACH 
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MORE OF OUR COMMUNITY. BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT TURNED OUT AT THE POLLS TO VOTE
WAS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THE NUMBER THAT WE WERE ABLE TO REACH THROUGH OUR STANDARD COMMUNICATION CHANNELS. SO THAT'S NOT LIKE I SAID,
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING, BUT IT'S A LESSON LEARNED. I THINK THERE'S A,
JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COULD BE FACTORS TO CONSIDER WHEN CHOOSING. FIRST OF ALL,
WE CAN ONLY CHOOSE MAYOR NOVEMBER. 
          SCHOOL DISTRICTS CANNOT HAVE BOND ELECTIONS ON,
ON ANY OTHER DATE BESIDES A MAY OR MAYOR NOVEMBER UNIFORM ELECTION DATE. 
          THOSE ARE OUR ONLY CHOICES. THERE WAS SOME TALK IN THE LEGISLATURE IN THE LAST SESSION
ABOUT MOVING THAT TO NOVEMBER ONLY. 
          AND I WON'T GET INTO ALL THE PROS AND CONS OF THAT UNLESS YOU GUYS JUST REALLY WANT TO
HEAR ME GET ON A SOAPBOX. 
          BUT BUT THERE'S THAT THE, WE, WE HAVE HEARD THE CITY OF FRISCO IS PUTTING TOGETHER THEIR
OWN BOND COMMITTEE POTENTIALLY TARGETING MAY OF 2027. AGAIN, PRO DECIDE FOR YOURSELF WHETHER THAT'S,
YOU KNOW, POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE IN TERMS OF OUR TIMING. THERE IS THERE IS AN IDEA OUT THERE THAT
HAVING 2 DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES WITH 2 DIFFERENT BOND PROPOSITIONS ON BALLOTS IN MAY VERSUS NOVEMBER VOTERS
SOMETIMES HAVE TROUBLE SEPARATING IN THEIR MINDS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY. AND MAY BE CONFUSED AS TO WHY IT'S
BEING ASKED TWICE IN THE SAME YEAR. 
          SO THOSE ARE JUST ALL THINGS TO CONSIDER. BUT I THINK TYPICALLY FOR,
FOR MUNICIPAL ISSUES LIKE SCHOOL DISTRICT BONDS WE TEND TO BE ABLE TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY A LOT BETTER WHEN IT'S A MAY ELECTION
VERSUS KIND OF TRYING TO CUT THROUGH THE NOISE OF A NOVEMBER ELECTION. SO KIMBERLY, ALSO, OH, SORRY. 
          REAL QUICK, KIMBERLY, WOULD YOU ALSO AND SCOTT,
YOU MAY BE ABLE TO CHIME IN ON THIS TIMING WISE SINCE YOU'RE GOING TO GO THERE. 
          SCOTT. GO FOR IT. I THINK THE OTHER KEY POINT THANK YOU,
COREY, IS JUST THAT IF YOU, LET'S SAY MAY OF 2027, WE TYPICALLY THEN FOR LARGE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO REQUIRE SCHOOLS TO NOT BE IN SESSION. 
          SO WE'RE DOING THE WORK DURING THE SUMMERTIME,
MAY OF 2027 OR MAY OF ANY MONTH OR ANY YEAR WOULD ALLOW US TO START PLANNING THAT SUMMER PROCUREMENT IN THE FALL SO WE CAN START THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION THE FOLLOWING SUMMER. 
          SO IN MAY OF 27 WOULD ALLOW US TO DO MAJOR WORK IN THE SUMMER OF 28. 
          IF YOU DO A NOVEMBER OF 27 BOND VOTE, YOU'RE GOING TO MISS A WHOLE YEAR AND NOT BE ABLE TO
GET TO THAT CAMPUS UNTIL SUMMER OF 29. 
          BECAUSE OF THE CYCLE OF THE PROCUREMENT AND THE PROCESS WE GO THROUGH. 
          SO THERE'S ANOTHER ADVANTAGE FROM THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE. I THINK THE SAME COULD BE SAID
FOR PURCHASING NEW TECHNOLOGY. 
          ONE, ONE THING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO IF A BOND ELECTION PASSES IN MAY,
RIGHT, IT'LL BE A MONTH OR 2 BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY SELL THOSE BONDS TO INVESTORS. BUT WE DO HAVE THE OPTION OF FRONTING A LITTLE BIT OF THE MONEY TO GET
PROJECTS GOING. 
          AND BEFORE THOSE BONDS ACTUALLY SELL AND CLOSE AND WE GET THE CASH FROM YOU KNOW,
THE BANK. 
          SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT PURCHASING OR REPLACING TECHNOLOGY IN
MAY, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST START THAT PROCESS OVER THE SUMMER SO THAT YOU CAN
START THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR WITH SOME OF THOSE REPLACEMENT DEVICES VERSUS IN NOVEMBER. 
          YOUR, YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE IT FOR THE SECOND SEMESTER. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF THE SAME CONCEPT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL EQUIPMENT THAT YOU'RE
BUYING. 
          WELL, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A GREAT CONVERSATION. 
          IS THERE ANY, UNLESS THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO HAS A PRESSING NO PRESSURE,
SOMETHING TO SAY. 
          SEEING NONE. SO AT THIS POINT, AS LET ME JUST REITERATE,
WE'RE NOT TAKING A VOTE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS THERE ANY HEARTBURN OR EITHER DELAY OR CONCERN ABOUT NOT ALLOWING THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
PLANNING. 
          AND THIS IS JUST PLANNING. HEARING OR SEEING NONE THEN MOVE FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU. IT'S 7:02 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. 
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.